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To: PetroniusMaximus
You are merely pushing back your supposed problem by one level.
The Magesterium is ALSO subject to the limitations of time and culture. It’s pronouncements ALSO need to be interpreted.
If God was, according to your way of thinking, unable to clearly and adequately express Himself in the Bible, what makes you think He is capable of doing so through the Magesterium?

Pardon my interprtation, I don't THINK that the poster was saying that God was unable to clearly and adequately express Himself in the Bible.

God spoke through his chosen spokespeople. FIRST came the Magesterium, that is, the twelve Apostles, THEN came the Bible, 400 years later.

Also, there HAD to be a "final" source, an unimpeachable source. According to the Catholics, the Pope is that infallible source. They also believe that the Holy Spirit CONTINUES to inspire the Church and give the Pope that inspiration to be a final authority, as the Pope says He speaks through the inspiration of the Holy Spirit.
Protestantism didn't surface until 1500 years later, thanks to the anger of a Catholic priest. Meanwhile, the years from 33-1500 WERE fruitful years which spread Christ's Word throughout the world.

Seems to me, God got it right on the money with His path of Apostolic Tradition, the Catholic Church, and THEN the Bible 400 years later.

6 posted on 02/03/2012 6:59:49 AM PST by cloudmountain
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To: cloudmountain

“Pardon my interprtation, I don’t THINK that the poster was saying that God was unable to clearly and adequately express Himself in the Bible. “

Let me quote...

“These things led me to realize that if the Body of Christ has to go at Faith with a Bible Alone approach we are doomed. The time, culture and language separations are a huge obstacle to getting at the actual meaning of the texts, with all the nuance and subtlety that comes with theological understanding and the development of those concepts.”

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“’God spoke through his chosen spokespeople. FIRST came the Magesterium, that is, the twelve Apostles, THEN came the Bible, 400 years later. “

No. The Canon closed around 400 years later.

The vast bulk of the Bible was around even before Jesus was born. As it was ALREADY Scripture.

All of the New Testament was written within 40 years of Jesus’ death, (before the fall of Jerusalem).

The Bible did not suddenly appear 400 years after the fact.


8 posted on 02/03/2012 7:14:42 AM PST by PetroniusMaximus
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To: cloudmountain
According to the Catholics, the Pope is that infallible source.

Like Pope Francis?

313 posted on 08/21/2020 9:31:19 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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