[NYer]

Catholic ping!

[PetroniusMaximus]

“Our Lord provided us with an authoritative body that can express the Truths of Revelation over time and cultures without error. A body that has the authority to interpret the Sacred Texts and present them to all cultures and times. “

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You are merely pushing back your supposed problem by one level.

The Magesterium is ALSO subject to the limitations of time and culture. It’s pronouncements ALSO need to be interpreted.

If God was, according to your way of thinking, unable to clearly and adequately express Himself in the Bible, what makes you think He is capable of doing so through the Magesterium?

[cloudmountain]

Great article, NYer.

Catholic tradition is real.
Sometimes Protestants FORGET that the Bible was collated by the Catholics and not until (finally) in 420 A.D. Before that there were just random copies of the words of Jesus and his Apostles floating around. With all that were forgeries and lies.
It was the task of the Catholic bishops to sort out all the documents and decide on which of them were real and which were false.
Thus the 27 documents which form the New Testament were the fruit of the Council called by the Pope, the direct descendant of Peter, in 420 A.D. That was the "birthday" of the Bible. Before that there was APOSTOLIC TRADITION, oral history, from the mouths of the Apostles to their diciples...THEN the finally-collated BIBLE.

History, you can't beat it. The early Christians took after their Jewish ancestors and kept records, wrote it all down, appreciated the efficacy of the written word.

I wonder why so many Protestants fight it?

[Jack of all Trades]

A body that lives and breathes with the cultures in time but stands above them

The Magisterium is the fourth leg of the Trinity. When you add a "Mother" of God, you come up with a five sided representation.

[jjotto]

“The Magisterium”, if I understand correctly, is an extension of Oral Torah from the Jews.

Moses received extensive revelation on Mount Sinai (for several months), then taught orally for 40 years until he wrote a Torah Scroll just before his death. So not only was there a text that must be transmitted, but also explanations for its meanings and applications, as well as other conventional history.

[ThisLittleLightofMine]

Well written, however the Holy Spirit is my tutor.

[Salvation]

WHY THE MAGISTERIUM MAKES SENSE TO ME
Revelation, Sacred Tradition, and the Magisterium
Vatican must ensure Caritas charity groups are “completely in accord” with Magisterium
What Is the Magisterium?

Allen interview of Cardinal George supports report of ‘parallel magisterium’ worries
The Magisterium: A Precious Gift (Catholic Caucus)
Catholic Biblical Apologetics: The Charism of Infallibility: The Magisterium
Anti-Popes and Dangers of a Parallel Magisterium (Church under attack) [Catholic Caucus]
Pontiff Calls for Complete Fidelity to Magisterium
Modernism and the Magisterium
Catholic Word of the Day: EXTRAORDINARY MAGISTERIUM , 10-23-09
“Exemplary loyalty and devotion to the Holy Father and the magisterium”
Nostra Aetate [Catholic Magisterium Rejecting Collective Guilt of Jews]
The Magisterium: A precious gift

[johngrace]

Searching for: CHURCH

MATTHEW 16:18 I will build my CHURCH; and the gates of
MATTHEW 18:17 tell it unto the CHURCH: but if he neglect
MATTHEW 18:17 neglect to hear the CHURCH, let him be unto
ACTS 2:47 Lord added to the CHURCH daily such as should
ACTS 5:11 came upon all the CHURCH, and upon as many
ACTS 7:38 that was in the CHURCH in the wilderness with
ACTS 8:1 great persecution against the CHURCH which was at Jerusalem;
ACTS 8:3 made havock of the CHURCH, entering into every house,
ACTS 11:22 the ears of the CHURCH which was in Jerusalem:
ACTS 11:26 assembled themselves with the CHURCH, and taught much people.
ACTS 12:1 forth his hands to vex certain of the CHURCH.
ACTS 12:5 without ceasing of the CHURCH unto God for him.
ACTS 13:1 there were in the CHURCH that was at Antioch
ACTS 14:23 them elders in every CHURCH, and had prayed with
ACTS 14:27 and had gathered the CHURCH together, they rehearsed all
ACTS 15:3 their way by the CHURCH, they passed through Phenice
ACTS 15:4 were received of the CHURCH, and of the apostles
ACTS 15:22 elders with the whole CHURCH, to send chosen men
ACTS 18:22 up, and saluted the CHURCH, he went down to
ACTS 20:17 to Ephesus, and called the elders of the CHURCH.
ACTS 20:28 overseers, to feed the CHURCH of God, which he
ROMANS 16:1 a servant of the CHURCH which is at Cenchrea:
ROMANS 16:5 Likewise greet the CHURCH that is in their house.
ROMANS 16:23 and of the whole CHURCH, saluteth you. Erastus the
1 CORINTHIANS 1:2 Unto the CHURCH of God which is at Corinth,
1 CORINTHIANS 4:17 Christ, as I teach every where in every CHURCH.
1 CORINTHIANS 6:4 to judge who are least esteemed in the CHURCH.
1 CORINTHIANS 10:32 to the Gentiles, nor to the CHURCH of God:
1 CORINTHIANS 11:18 come together in the CHURCH, I hear that there
1 CORINTHIANS 11:22 or despise ye the CHURCH of God, and shame
1 CORINTHIANS 12:28 set some in the CHURCH, first apostles, secondarily prophets,
1 CORINTHIANS 14:4 edifieth himself; but he that prophesieth edifieth the CHURCH.
1 CORINTHIANS 14:5 except he interpret, that the CHURCH may receive edifying.
1 CORINTHIANS 14:12 ye may excel to the edifying of the CHURCH.
1 CORINTHIANS 14:19 Yet in the CHURCH I had rather speak five
1 CORINTHIANS 14:23 If therefore the whole CHURCH be come together into
1 CORINTHIANS 14:28 keep silence in the CHURCH; and let him speak
1 CORINTHIANS 14:35 a shame for women to speak in the CHURCH.
1 CORINTHIANS 15:9 an apostle, because I persecuted the CHURCH of God.
1 CORINTHIANS 16:19 the Lord, with the CHURCH that is in their
2 CORINTHIANS 1:1 our brother, unto the CHURCH of God which is
GALATIANS 1:13 measure I persecuted the CHURCH of God, and wasted
EPHESIANS 1:22 be the head over all things to the CHURCH,
EPHESIANS 3:10 be known by the CHURCH the manifold wisdom of
EPHESIANS 3:21 be glory in the CHURCH by Christ Jesus throughout
EPHESIANS 5:23 the head of the CHURCH: and he is the
EPHESIANS 5:24 Therefore as the CHURCH is subject unto Christ, so
EPHESIANS 5:25 Christ also loved the CHURCH, and gave himself for
EPHESIANS 5:27 to himself a glorious CHURCH, not having spot, or
EPHESIANS 5:29 and cherisheth it, even as the Lord the CHURCH:
EPHESIANS 5:32 mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the CHURCH.
PHILIPPIANS 3:6 Concerning zeal, persecuting the CHURCH; touching the righteousness which
PHILIPPIANS 4:15 departed from Macedonia, no CHURCH communicated with me as
COLOSSIANS 1:18 of the body, the CHURCH: who is the beginning,
COLOSSIANS 1:24 flesh for his body’s sake, which is the CHURCH:
COLOSSIANS 4:15 and Nymphas, and the CHURCH which is in his
COLOSSIANS 4:16 read also in the CHURCH of the Laodiceans; and
1 THESSALONIANS 1:1 and Timotheus, unto the CHURCH of the Thessalonians which
2 THESSALONIANS 1:1 and Timotheus, unto the CHURCH of the Thessalonians in
1 TIMOTHY 3:5 shall he take care of the CHURCH of God?)
1 TIMOTHY 3:15 God, which is the CHURCH of the living God,
1 TIMOTHY 5:16 and let not the CHURCH be charged; that it
PHILEMON 1:2 our fellowsoldier, and to the CHURCH in thy house:
HEBREWS 2:12 the midst of the CHURCH will I sing praise
HEBREWS 12:23 the general assembly and CHURCH of the firstborn, which
JAMES 5:14 the elders of the CHURCH; and let them pray
1 PETER 5:13 The CHURCH that is at Babylon, elected together with
3 JOHN 1:6 thy charity before the CHURCH: whom if thou bring
3 JOHN 1:9 I wrote unto the CHURCH: but Diotrephes, who loveth
3 JOHN 1:10 that would, and casteth them out of the CHURCH.
REVELATION 2:1 the angel of the CHURCH of Ephesus write; These
REVELATION 2:8 the angel of the CHURCH in Smyrna write; These
REVELATION 2:12 the angel of the CHURCH in Pergamos write; These
REVELATION 2:18 the angel of the CHURCH in Thyatira write; These
REVELATION 3:1 the angel of the CHURCH in Sardis write; These
REVELATION 3:7 the angel of the CHURCH in Philadelphia write; These
REVELATION 3:14 the angel of the CHURCH of the Laodiceans write;
—END—

[RnMomof7]

This article makes me think of the old testament story of Israel wanting a King

1Sa 8:7 And the LORD said unto Samuel, Hearken unto the voice of the people in all that they say unto thee: for they have not rejected thee, but they have rejected me, that I should not reign over them.

1Sa 8:8 According to all the works which they have done since the day that I brought them up out of Egypt even unto this day, wherewith they have forsaken me, and served other gods, so do they also unto thee.

1Sa 8:9 Now therefore hearken unto their voice: howbeit yet protest solemnly unto them, and shew them the manner of the king that shall reign over them.

1Sa 8:10 ¶ And Samuel told all the words of the LORD unto the people that asked of him a king.

1Sa 8:11 And he said, This will be the manner of the king that shall reign over you: He will take your sons, and appoint [them] for himself, for his chariots, and [to be] his horsemen; and [some] shall run before his chariots.

1Sa 8:12 And he will appoint him captains over thousands, and captains over fifties; and [will set them] to ear his ground, and to reap his harvest, and to make his instruments of war, and instruments of his chariots.

1Sa 8:13 And he will take your daughters [to be] confectionaries, and [to be] cooks, and [to be] bakers.

1Sa 8:14 And he will take your fields, and your vineyards, and your oliveyards, [even] the best [of them], and give [them] to his servants.

1Sa 8:15 And he will take the tenth of your seed, and of your vineyards, and give to his officers, and to his servants.

1Sa 8:16 And he will take your menservants, and your maidservants, and your goodliest young men, and your asses, and put [them] to his work.

1Sa 8:17 He will take the tenth of your sheep: and ye shall be his servants.

1Sa 8:18 And ye shall cry out in that day because of your king which ye shall have chosen you; and the LORD will not hear you in that day.

1Sa 8:19 ¶ Nevertheless the people refused to obey the voice of Samuel; and they said, Nay; but we will have a king over us;

1Sa 8:20 That we also may be like all the nations; and that our king may judge us, and go out before us, and fight our battles.

1Sa 8:21 And Samuel heard all the words of the people, and he rehearsed them in the ears of the LORD.

1Sa 8:22 And the LORD said to Samuel, Hearken unto their voice, and make them a king. .......

Men are not satisfied by God..they want a visible representative or representatives to lead them ...

[cloudmountain]

Maybe you can give CynicalBear some information on Mary.
If he's interested he'll look it up; if he's just baiting me, he'll ignore it.

Thanks, NYer.

[narses]

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[Zuriel]

Who do you think the politicians model their legislative motivations from?

“Make new rules and declarations. It’s our job!” is their unspoken motto it seems.

For soul saving and godly living, the scriptures are more than adequate. The vanity of needing ‘more facts’ to proclaim is certainly nothing new. Pride. That is just what gives way to new ‘prophets’ like Mowhamhead and Joe Smith.

[Elsie]

These things led me to realize that if the Body of Christ has to go at Faith with a Bible Alone approach we are doomed.

Really?

I say if we have to some other dudes also far removed from the original Greek and Hebrew to explain it for me, then I am probably DOOMED.

I suspect that the oft discussed "Call no man father" verse should REALLY be translated: Call no man cousin.

[Elsie]

Yup; we're doomed all right!

[Elsie]

2 Peter 1:3-5

3 Jesus has the power of God. And his power has given us everything we need to live a life devoted to God.

[Elsie]

The Bible is a product of the times and cultures that produced it. Despite the fact that it is the inerrant Word of God it still uses human culture and language to communicate to us. And because of the limits of both human language and cultural concepts, the existence of the Magisterium and Sacred Tradition simply make sense.

The Sadducees and Pharisees agree with you 100%.

They also DISAGREE over which one of THEM are the correct interpreters of what had been written down before.

[Elsie]

I am SO glad that the church has informed us; in detail; just what all of these early references 'really' meant. It would be SO confusing for me just to merely look them up and decide for myself.

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NIV Matthew 2:5
"In Bethlehem in Judea," they replied, "for this is what the prophet has written:

NIV Matthew 4:1-11
1. Then Jesus was led by the Spirit into the desert to be tempted by the devil.
2. After fasting forty days and forty nights, he was hungry.
3. The tempter came to him and said, "If you are the Son of God, tell these stones to become bread."
4. Jesus answered, "It is written: `Man does not live on bread alone, but on every word that comes from the mouth of God.' "
5. Then the devil took him to the holy city and had him stand on the highest point of the temple.
6. "If you are the Son of God," he said, "throw yourself down. For it is written: "`He will command his angels concerning you, and they will lift you up in their hands, so that you will not strike your foot against a stone.' "
7. Jesus answered him, "It is also written: `Do not put the Lord your God to the test.' "
8. Again, the devil took him to a very high mountain and showed him all the kingdoms of the world and their splendor.
9. "All this I will give you," he said, "if you will bow down and worship me."
10. Jesus said to him, "Away from me, Satan! For it is written: `Worship the Lord your God, and serve him only.' "
11. Then the devil left him, and angels came and attended him.

NIV Matthew 11:10
This is the one about whom it is written: "`I will send my messenger ahead of you, who will prepare your way before you.'

NIV Matthew 21:13
"It is written," he said to them, "`My house will be called a house of prayer,' but you are making it a `den of robbers.' "

NIV Matthew 26:24
The Son of Man will go just as it is written about him.

NIV Matthew 26:31
Then Jesus told them, "This very night you will all fall away on account of me, for it is written: "`I will strike the shepherd, and the sheep of the flock will be scattered.'

NIV Mark 7:6-7
6. He replied, "Isaiah was right when he prophesied about you hypocrites; as it is written: "`These people honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me.
7. They worship me in vain; their teachings are but rules taught by men.'

NIV Mark 9:11-13
11. And they asked him, "Why do the teachers of the law say that Elijah must come first?"
12. Jesus replied, "To be sure, Elijah does come first, and restores all things. Why then is it written that the Son of Man must suffer much and be rejected?
13. But I tell you, Elijah has come, and they have done to him everything they wished, just as it is written about him."

NIV Mark 11:17
And as he taught them, he said, "Is it not written: "`My house will be called a house of prayer for all nations' ? But you have made it `a den of robbers.' "

NIV Mark 14:27
"You will all fall away," Jesus told them, "for it is written: "`I will strike the shepherd, and the sheep will be scattered.'

NIV Luke 4:17-19
17. The scroll of the prophet Isaiah was handed to him. Unrolling it, he found the place where it is written:
18. "The Spirit of the Lord is on me, because he has anointed me to preach good news to the poor. He has sent me to proclaim freedom for the prisoners and recovery of sight for the blind, to release the oppressed,
19. to proclaim the year of the Lord's favor."

NIV Luke 7:27
This is the one about whom it is written: "`I will send my messenger ahead of you, who will prepare your way before you.'

NIV Luke 10:26
"What is written in the Law?" he replied. "How do you read it?"

NIV Luke 18:31-33
31. Jesus took the Twelve aside and told them, "We are going up to Jerusalem, and everything that is written by the prophets about the Son of Man will be fulfilled.
32. He will be handed over to the Gentiles. They will mock him, insult him, spit on him, flog him and kill him.
33. On the third day he will rise again."

NIV Luke 20:17-18
17. Jesus looked directly at them and asked, "Then what is the meaning of that which is written: "`The stone the builders rejected has become the capstone ' ?
18. Everyone who falls on that stone will be broken to pieces, but he on whom it falls will be crushed."

NIV Luke 21:22
For this is the time of punishment in fulfillment of all that has been written.

NIV Luke 22:37
It is written: `And he was numbered with the transgressors' ; and I tell you that this must be fulfilled in me. Yes, what is written about me is reaching its fulfillment."

NIV Luke 24:44-47
44. He said to them, "This is what I told you while I was still with you: Everything must be fulfilled that is written about me in the Law of Moses, the Prophets and the Psalms."
45. Then he opened their minds so they could understand the Scriptures.
46. He told them, "This is what is written: The Christ will suffer and rise from the dead on the third day,
47. and repentance and forgiveness of sins will be preached in his name to all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.

NIV John 2:17
His disciples remembered that it is written: "Zeal for your house will consume me."

 

NIV John 6:31
Our forefathers ate the manna in the desert; as it is written: `He gave them bread from heaven to eat.' "

NIV John 6:45
It is written in the Prophets: `They will all be taught by God.' Everyone who listens to the Father and learns from him comes to me.

NIV John 12:14-16
14. Jesus found a young donkey and sat upon it, as it is written,
15. "Do not be afraid, O Daughter of Zion; see, your king is coming, seated on a donkey's colt."
16. At first his disciples did not understand all this. Only after Jesus was glorified did they realize that these things had been written about him and that they had done these things to him.

NIV John 15:25
But this is to fulfill what is written in their Law: `They hated me without reason.'

NIV John 20:30-31
30. Jesus did many other miraculous signs in the presence of his disciples, which are not recorded in this book.
31. But these are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that by believing you may have life in his name.

NIV Acts 1:20
"For," said Peter, "it is written in the book of Psalms, "`May his place be deserted; let there be no one to dwell in it,' and, "`May another take his place of leadership.'

NIV Acts 7:42
But God turned away and gave them over to the worship of the heavenly bodies. This agrees with what is written in the book of the prophets: "`Did you bring me sacrifices and offerings forty years in the desert, O house of Israel?

NIV Acts 13:29
When they had carried out all that was written about him, they took him down from the tree and laid him in a tomb.

NIV Acts 13:32-33
32. "We tell you the good news: What God promised our fathers
33. he has fulfilled for us, their children, by raising up Jesus. As it is written in the second Psalm: "`You are my Son; today I have become your Father. '

NIV Acts 15:15-18
15. The words of the prophets are in agreement with this, as it is written:
16. "`After this I will return and rebuild David's fallen tent. Its ruins I will rebuild, and I will restore it,
17. that the remnant of men may seek the Lord, and all the Gentiles who bear my name, says the Lord, who does these things'
18. that have been known for ages.

NIV Acts 23:5
Paul replied, "Brothers, I did not realize that he was the high priest; for it is written: `Do not speak evil about the ruler of your people.' "

NIV Acts 24:14
However, I admit that I worship the God of our fathers as a follower of the Way, which they call a sect. I believe everything that agrees with the Law and that is written in the Prophets,
and I have the same hope in God as these men, that there will be a resurrection of both the righteous and the wicked.

NIV Romans 1:17
For in the gospel a righteousness from God is revealed, a righteousness that is by faith from first to last, just as it is written: "The righteous will live by faith."

NIV Romans 2:24
As it is written: "God's name is blasphemed among the Gentiles because of you."

NIV Romans 3:4
Not at all! Let God be true, and every man a liar. As it is written: "So that you may be proved right when you speak and prevail when you judge."

NIV Romans 3:10-12
10. As it is written: "There is no one righteous, not even one;
11. there is no one who understands, no one who seeks God.
12. All have turned away, they have together become worthless; there is no one who does good, not even one."

NIV Romans 4:17
As it is written: "I have made you a father of many nations." He is our father in the sight of God, in whom he believed--the God who gives life to the dead and calls things that are not as though they were.

NIV Romans 4:23-24
23. The words "it was credited to him" were written not for him alone,
24. but also for us, to whom God will credit righteousness--for us who believe in him who raised Jesus our Lord from the dead.

NIV Romans 8:36
As it is written: "For your sake we face death all day long; we are considered as sheep to be slaughtered."

NIV Romans 9:13
Just as it is written: "Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated."

NIV Romans 9:33
As it is written: "See, I lay in Zion a stone that causes men to stumble and a rock that makes them fall, and the one who trusts in him will never be put to shame."

NIV Romans 10:15
And how can they preach unless they are sent? As it is written, "How beautiful are the feet of those who bring good news!"

NIV Romans 11:7-10
7. What then? What Israel sought so earnestly it did not obtain, but the elect did. The others were hardened,
8. as it is written: "God gave them a spirit of stupor, eyes so that they could not see and ears so that they could not hear, to this very day."
9. And David says: "May their table become a snare and a trap, a stumbling block and a retribution for them.
10. May their eyes be darkened so they cannot see, and their backs be bent forever."

NIV Romans 11:26-27
26. And so all Israel will be saved, as it is written: "The deliverer will come from Zion; he will turn godlessness away from Jacob.
27. And this is my covenant with them when I take away their sins."

NIV Romans 12:19
Do not take revenge, my friends, but leave room for God's wrath, for it is written: "It is mine to avenge; I will repay," says the Lord.

NIV Romans 14:11
It is written: "`As surely as I live,' says the Lord, `every knee will bow before me; every tongue will confess to God.'"

NIV Romans 15:3-4
3. For even Christ did not please himself but, as it is written: "The insults of those who insult you have fallen on me."
4. For everything that was written in the past was written to teach us, so that through endurance and the encouragement of the Scriptures we might have hope.

NIV Romans 15:7-12
7. Accept one another, then, just as Christ accepted you, in order to bring praise to God.
8. For I tell you that Christ has become a servant of the Jews on behalf of God's truth, to confirm the promises made to the patriarchs
9. so that the Gentiles may glorify God for his mercy, as it is written: "Therefore I will praise you among the Gentiles; I will sing hymns to your name."
10. Again, it says, "Rejoice, O Gentiles, with his people."
11. And again, "Praise the Lord, all you Gentiles, and sing praises to him, all you peoples."
12. And again, Isaiah says, "The Root of Jesse will spring up, one who will arise to rule over the nations; the Gentiles will hope in him."

NIV Romans 15:21
Rather, as it is written: "Those who were not told about him will see, and those who have not heard will understand."

NIV 1 Corinthians 1:19
For it is written: "I will destroy the wisdom of the wise; the intelligence of the intelligent I will frustrate."

NIV 1 Corinthians 1:31
Therefore, as it is written: "Let him who boasts boast in the Lord."

NIV 1 Corinthians 2:9
However, as it is written: "No eye has seen, no ear has heard, no mind has conceived what God has prepared for those who love him" --

NIV 1 Corinthians 3:19-20
19. For the wisdom of this world is foolishness in God's sight. As it is written: "He catches the wise in their craftiness" ;
20. and again, "The Lord knows that the thoughts of the wise are futile."

NIV 1 Corinthians 4:6
Now, brothers, I have applied these things to myself and Apollos for your benefit, so that you may learn from us the meaning of the saying, "Do not go beyond what is written." Then you will not take pride in one man over against another.

NIV 1 Corinthians 9:9
For it is written in the Law of Moses: "Do not muzzle an ox while it is treading out the grain." Is it about oxen that God is concerned?

NIV 1 Corinthians 10:7
Do not be idolaters, as some of them were; as it is written: "The people sat down to eat and drink and got up to indulge in pagan revelry."

NIV 1 Corinthians 10:11
These things happened to them as examples and were written down as warnings for us, on whom the fulfillment of the ages has come.

NIV 1 Corinthians 14:21
In the Law it is written: "Through men of strange tongues and through the lips of foreigners I will speak to this people, but even then they will not listen to me," says the Lord.

NIV 1 Corinthians 15:45
So it is written: "The first man Adam became a living being" ; the last Adam, a life-giving spirit.

NIV 1 Corinthians 15:54
When the perishable has been clothed with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality, then the saying that is written will come true: "Death has been swallowed up in victory."

NIV 2 Corinthians 4:13-14
13. it is written: "I believed; therefore I have spoken." With that same spirit of faith we also believe and therefore speak,
14. because we know that the one who raised the Lord Jesus from the dead will also raise us with Jesus and present us with you in his presence.

NIV 2 Corinthians 8:15
as it is written: "He who gathered much did not have too much, and he who gathered little did not have too little."

NIV Galatians 3:10
All who rely on observing the law are under a curse, for it is written: "Cursed is everyone who does not continue to do everything written in the Book of the Law."

NIV Galatians 3:13
Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us, for it is written: "Cursed is everyone who is hung on a tree."

NIV Galatians 4:22
For it is written that Abraham had two sons, one by the slave woman and the other by the free woman.

NIV Galatians 4:27
For it is written: "Be glad, O barren woman, who bears no children; break forth and cry aloud, you who have no labor pains; because more are the children of the desolate woman than of her who has a husband."

NIV Hebrews 10:7
Then I said, `Here I am-- it is written about me in the scroll-- I have come to do your will, O God.'"

NIV 1 Peter 1:15-16
But just as he who called you is holy, so be holy in all you do; for it is written: "Be holy, because I am holy."

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And now; for the Believers in Christ who may have wondered how much FAITH to place upon the Apostles written words...

 

NIV Luke 1:1-4
1. Many have undertaken to draw up an account of the things that have been fulfilled among us,
2. just as they were handed down to us by those who from the first were eyewitnesses and servants of the word.
3. Therefore, since I myself have carefully investigated everything from the beginning, it seemed good also to me to write an orderly account for you, most excellent Theophilus,
4. so that you may know the certainty of the things you have been taught.

 

NIV 2 Corinthians 1:13-14
13. For we do not write you anything you cannot read or understand. And I hope that,
14. as you have understood us in part, you will come to understand fully that you can boast of us just as we will boast of you in the day of the Lord Jesus.

NIV 2 Peter 3:16
He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction.

NIV 1 John 2:12-14
12. I write to you, dear children, because your sins have been forgiven on account of his name.
13. I write to you, fathers, because you have known him who is from the beginning. I write to you young men, because you have overcome the evil one. I write to you, dear children, because you have known the Father.
14. I write to you, fathers, because you have known him who is from the beginning. I write to you, young men, because you are strong, and the word of God lives in you, and you have overcome the evil one.