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To: surroundedbyblue
Unfortunately, there are some Protestants whose prejudice against Catholics will get in the way of their defending what is right: religious liberty.

The concern over "religious liberty" from RC's is a little much. You might want to look at some history books.

Probably the best place to start fixing the problem of an all encompassing authoritarian govt is with those members of your church that vote. It was 55% of RC's that voted for obama.

13 posted on 02/01/2012 12:59:53 PM PST by wmfights
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To: wmfights

That is why educating the Catholic faithful is very important more than ever.


15 posted on 02/01/2012 1:02:50 PM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: wmfights

What is your point?? So are you saying that it’s ok to violate the conscience of Roman Catholics because 54% of some CINOs voted Democrat??


17 posted on 02/01/2012 1:13:37 PM PST by surroundedbyblue (Live the message of Fatima - pray & do penance!)
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To: wmfights

you’re confusing two issues: the actual law of the land, and your dislike of Catholicism.

The law of the land forbids the sort of action the current government is engaging in. That applies whether you’re Catholic, Sikh, Jew, Orthodox, Buddhist, whatever. If you wish to look at it as a narrowly-focused Catholics-only item, you may only do so until the government finds your denomination inconvenient, at which time, you’ll be the next up. Lest you imagine that I am only saying this because I’m Catholic, the answer is no. If this were an attack on you, or JR, or anyone in the country, of this sort, I would have to object. The first amendment covers all of us. Breaking it for one breaks it for all.


18 posted on 02/01/2012 1:25:45 PM PST by sayuncledave (et Verbum caro factum est (And the Word was made flesh))
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To: wmfights
The concern over "religious liberty" from RC's is a little much. You might want to look at some history books.

We've had it coming to us, IOW. High fives all around.

Probably the best place to start fixing the problem of an all encompassing authoritarian govt is with those members of your church that vote. It was 55% of RC's that voted for obama.

Up to a point, Lord Copper.

If recent news reports are any indication, some of the more liberal members of the church have apparently had an awakening [see statements from Mahony et al.,] which may or may not change the way they vote.

However, given that, we have an immediate issue in front of us. We've been given 12 months by the government to get our act together. If there's a change in November and Obama goes, then this issue recedes......at least temporarily. But it will be back; the next time we get a Democratic government. So any respite will be transient.

IOW, a long term solution to this issue won't be found at the ballot box. History tells us that no one party maintains control of government forever.

In the long run, it doesn't really matter who supports us. At least not from the perspective of the eventual outcome of this confrontation. The Catholic Church has always fought its own battles and it will continue to do so. It matters of course, from the perspective of non-Catholics and which side of the persecution fence they eventually end up sitting. It's great to hear the support of men of good will such as Mohler but it's not essential.

Our own path is clear. Those heavily encumbered with baggage from the 16th century have some decisions to make.

31 posted on 02/01/2012 2:12:58 PM PST by marshmallow (.)
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