If you are going to take that perspective then we are All part of the same family group - decendants of Noah, including the Arabs, so that doesn't rationalize seizing land by force and genocide for one group of descendents but not for another. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. Further, if you are going to take a biblical perspective then NT prophecy tells us the Roman cleansing of the Jews from Palestine was done, by God, for the same reason he had the Jews cleanse the various tribes collectively referred to as the Cannanites from the same land. (As was the diaspora) Either way, the only claim anyone has had to the land since Joshua is force of arms. The Jews currently have right of possession but that's only good for as long as they can hold it.
Yes, it is a fact that we are all related to each other. But some of us are more closely realted than others. The laws of most states recognize that regarding inheritances.
You are more closely related to your cousin than I would be. If your cousin has no children or closer living relatives, dies and leaves an estate, you are entitled to his estate legally- and morally. I would have no rights to it- even if I killed you to acquire it and squatted in his house. It would legally and morally belong to your children.
The Jews have always had the right of possession. It was willed and commanded by HaShem (G-D). Jews do not believe in Jesus- for many reasons- nor we do not believe in a “New Testament”. There are many, many reasons for this too. For one thing, it does not even translate the original Hebrew of the Torah correctly.
Another reason why, is an example- what you stated, “then NT prophecy tells us the Roman cleansing of the Jews from Palestine was done, by God, for the same reason he had the Jews cleanse the various tribes collectively referred to as the Cannanites from the same land. “
That statement does not even make sense, as it goes against
G-D’s own commandments, is not simply inaccurate, and even goes against HaShem’s own words. To explain:
1.) The Romans did not “cleanse” Jerusalem or the rest of Israel of the Jews. It killed many, enslaved many,dispersed many....but, the two largest tribes survived, (Judah and Benjamin) as did portions of the others. That is a historical fact that well documented -even by the Romans, Josephus, and others, as well as the archeology- the facts in and on the ground. So, that is statement is an absolute falsehood. The facts speak differently from your statement.
2.) Israel is holy ground- Jerusalem in particular. The Temple Mount the most sacred. HaShem had commanded that his Temple built upon the sacred mount. It is the resting place of the Shekinah upon the earth- the Holiest place on earth. Even today, Jews don’t even dare walk upon certain portions of it.
He forbid human blood to be spilled upon it, as it would putrefy it and profane HIM.
When the Romans came in they not only destroyed the Temple, and spilled human blood upon it, but placed idols of their gods on the Temple mount, in contempt of HaShem. HaShem states in the Torah, and I believe you folks know of these Mitzvot as well:
“Thy shalt NOT have any gods before me” and Thy shalt NOT make any graven images unto me.”
Idolatry is regarded by HaShem as the gravest sin a human can commit. HaShem told Moshe Rabbienu (Moses) that this was the worst of bominations. So, why would HaShem allow HaShem forbid idols and punishes all idolators.
So why would HaShem allow idols upon HIS sacred mount, allow Himself and His holy name to be profaned, and allow it to be putrefied?
The answer is HE won’t, does not, and did not. And the Romans were punished, and remain cursed.
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If you study Torah, you are familiar with the principal of “Midda Kinnegid Midda”. HaShem taught us at Mt Sinai that this was how he runs all of creation. It means “Measure For Measure” in Hebrew. He also told us that He also communicates and renders judgements upon people and the earth through the 4 elements.
And, if you study history, you will find that every single nation, with out exception, who act against HaShem’s will, and harm Israel and the Jewish people are punished. Their governments and nations collapse, fall into financial ruin, or are completely destroyed, and they never return to their past greatness.
HE made the promise to Abraham: “I will Bless those who Bless You and Curse those who Curse You.”
-Bereshit 12:3
The result? The mighty Roman empire fell not long after, their perverse rulers went mad from their lead goblets, and since the Romans liked idols so much, they were given the curse of Mt. Vesuvious and Pompeii to remind them.
Another more recent example Of Midda Kinnegid Midda is this:
When Ariel Sharon expelled the Jews of Gaza from their homes. Approximately 10,000 Jews were made homeless, in accordance with the pressure and demands of Bush and Condoleeza Rice. The operation was being concluded on
August 29, 2005. It was strictly forbidden by HaShem, in the Torah, to give away or sell any portion of the land.
On that very day, America was hit by THE WORST natural disaster to have ever occurred in America. Hurricane Katrina hit the New Orleans area and just about 500,000 people were made homeless. And Ariel Sharon, who gave in to their demands and gave away that portion of land, ended up in a coma from which he has never woken.
and....
10,000 Jews out of a population of 6 million is a percentage of .00167.
500,000 Americans out of a population of 300 million is a percentage of .00167.
If this isn’t a clear enough warning, I don’t know what is.