Posted on 07/14/2011 2:54:04 PM PDT by Colofornian
Wow. They really are evil. 8 items. Yikes.
I wonder if there is a web site where you can do some work and find out of any of your relatives were killed. Since I am from Arkansas it would be interesting to know.
Fancher at one time owned 200 acres about two miles south of me.
That's strange, I've known about this massacre since I was a child(read it in a history book). There has been at least one movie made about it, that shows that mormons were the perps and not Indians. Plus, I know about other crimes committed by mormons of that time period against other wagon trains, many travelers were warned about going through Utah but many did not heed. I also know about the group of murders that the mormons called the Avenging Angels.
The mormons in the 19th century were not very nice people when it came to getting along with others.
***I moved to Rogers last year ***
Welcome to NW Arkansas, the Tick and chigger capitol of the US!
Post #24, this statement “the group of murders” should read the group of murderers”.
Actually, the Indians’ traditional method of warfare could be appropriately considered terrorism, considerably preceding the formation of the country.
knee jerk responder alert
I agree completely.
***I’m currently reading the book “Massacre at Mountain Meadows” by William Wise.***
If you really want to get your blood to boil, read MASSACRES OF THE MOUNTAINS by JR DUNN Jr, written in the 1880s when people still remembered these things!
Did you know that the also Mormons attacked two other wagon trains? The Shepherd Train and the Miltmore train, both which had people killed by the mormon attackers.
Ya that one really gets to me too.
If you research the history, this has been one of the longest running coverups in our nation.
To this day no one will come strait out and say that Smith ordered, it, but at least one witness stated that Smith “Made it clear what he wanted”.
There have been many attempts to destroy the site over the years, look up what happened when some of the bodies were accidentally recovered, and how the forensic investigation was quashed.
My reading also appears to state that “Most” or “Many” of the children were returned to their relatives, but no one was certain that all were.
IIRC, the LDS Church admitted the massacre. The historical fact is that when the US Army rode in and found the blood soaked cloths of the slain stored in a warehouse, that it was difficult for the Cavalry officers to restrain the troops.
With the discovery of the clothes, all LDS claims of non-participation in the Mountain Meadows Massacre were rendered transparent falsehoods.
Had the officers not restrained their troops, the murders would have been avenged at that moment.
History was. Politics is.
Given that the LDS members had been on the receiving end of numerous attacks including murders and arson, property de facto confiscation, etc., I am surprised that the LDS and the Feddies didn’t make a historical site with the history of the entire chain of religious motivated murders culminating at Mountain Meadows.
The Mountain Meadows site could/should be an example in our American history of what happens when religion is allowed to become a motivating factor in public policy rather than a private matter of the individual citizen.
I hope to hear from some LDS FReepers as to their perspectives on this rather hasty post.
I could see the timing on this as an anti-Romney move, bringing negative attention to his religion, since he’s still ahead in the polls.
If it were an anti-Romney move, they would have waited until next year.
To this day no one will come strait out and say that Smith ordered, it, but at least one witness stated that Smith “Made it clear what he wanted”.
Smith was dead by then. This was on Brigham Young's watch.
OK, been a while since I looked into this.
I remember the “Code of silence” was pretty unbreakable, it was clear the order came from the top.
Few were prosecuted, as I recall only one guy was executed?
Eye opening if you do research on it.
Zealots are still a problem today.
It’s about time.
This took place on Sept. 11th of whate'er year you are citing?
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