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To: jda

****Well, then, I guess Matthew is mistaken when he says “the genealogy of Jesus Christ”? ****

The words of Jeremiah....

Jer 36:30 Therefore thus saith the LORD of Jehoiakim king of Judah; He shall have none to sit upon the throne of David: and his dead body shall be cast out in the day to the heat, and in the night to the frost.

If JOSEPH is the true father of Jesus then the Holy Spirit is not! That makes Jesus just another man.

The geneology in LUKE is of Mary, even the jews of that time believed it.


33 posted on 03/07/2011 12:48:42 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Visit the TOMMY FRANKS MILITARY MUSEUM in HOBART, OK. I did, well worth it!)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
You are the one who said Jesus is not descended through Joseph, but through Mary in Luke.

I was merely pointing out that:

1) Luke lists Jesus' lineage as through Joseph (that's the way lineages were presented). I didn't say Joseph was Jesus' "true" father, but, according to Levirate custom, is legitimately listed in His lineage (as listed in both Matthew and Luke), and,

2) Jesus has legal right to the throne through both Mary and Joseph (you might also want to read Jeremiah 22 and Haggai 2 for even more about the curse of Jeconiah - you see, it all has to fit together, not just selected peices).

Joseph was Jesus' earthly father, as accounted in Jewish law. That does diminish in the very least that Mary was "with child from the Holy Spirit". In fact, to me, it speaks of just how awesome God is - He made sure that there can be no legitimate argument that Jesus is not the Messiah.

34 posted on 03/07/2011 1:21:02 PM PST by jda ("Righteousness exalts a nation . . .")
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