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To: pastorbillrandles
It is they who have been for the most part deliberately propagandized through our public schools, ....
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If children are sent into the godless collectivist government schools they **WILL** learn to think godlessly. ( Is a “duh” needed here?)

And...SHAME on any so-called Christian teacher who supports, upholds, and promotes these godless temples of the government! If a Christian teacher hasn't been fired yet, then he or she **is** doing **exactly** that. They are upholding, supporting, and promoting godlessness.

Oh...And PULEEZE! Don't give us that drivel that Christian teachers sneak in Christian principles into their classes! What they are doing is teaching children that Christians are sneaky.

The worst is that so-called Christian teachers beguile young and inexperienced parents into thinking their godless collectivist school is somehow different because it has some Christian teachers.

And...Children do eventually figure out that that godlessness and Christianity are incompatible. Christian teachers merely teach the children that Christians will sell their values for a godless paycheck and pension.

If Christian teachers really loved children more than their paychecks, pensions, and generous vacations, they would be building Christian schools. They would be active in their own churches urging them to open Christian schools. They would be resources for Christian homeschooling families.

9 posted on 02/06/2011 6:42:35 AM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid!)
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To: wintertime

re: “If Christian teachers really loved children more than their paychecks, pensions, and generous vacations, they would be building Christian schools. They would be active in their own churches urging them to open Christian schools. They would be resources for Christian homeschooling families.”

I think homeschooling is great. My wife has homeschooled our children for a year or two when needed. I’ve administered standardized tests for homeschooled children and enjoyed doing it. Homeschooling is the best way to go if the parents are able to do it. The so-called socialization problem is indeed a myth because kids are involved in church, sports, music classes, etc.

I agree that public education has many problems. Where I part ways with wintertime specifically is:

1) that these problems are insurmountable
2) her blanket condemnation that all public schools
are horrible and without redeeming value
3) her sweeping, blanket condemnation of
conservatives and/or Christians who teach in
public school.

She doesn’t just question Christians motives for teaching in a public school - she KNOWS their motives: she says we are all greedy, hypocritical, and liars.

So, while I am not certain that I am among the ones that wintertime is referring to in her quote above, the reason I respond to some of her postings is not because I am “defending” public education so much as I am defending the integrity of conservatives and/or Christians who choose to become educators and teach in public school.

I disagree with wintertime that all public schools are beyond hope. I don’t believe that all public schools are equally in the bad shape she insists they are. Wintertime does.

Further, wintertime chooses to be needlessly hostile toward any Christian or conservative who is a “government” school teacher.

So, while I can’t speak for others, I am not defending public education, but I am defending the motives and the right of conservatives and Christians who try to improve and make a positive difference within public education. I don’t think that is a bad thing. Wintertime does.

P.S. I don’t belong to the NEA.


20 posted on 02/06/2011 7:57:00 AM PST by Nevadan
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To: wintertime

Agreed.
If you give your children to Caesar to be educated, don’t be surprised when they come home Romans.


29 posted on 02/06/2011 8:46:30 AM PST by all the best
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