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To: Zionist Conspirator

Forgiven:)

I don’t agree with you obviously, but I think you take too seriously what some Catholics feel towards the “fundies” that believe the earth is only a few thousand years old.

I go by official Church teaching when considering all that is put before me, even by Catholic scholars and theologians.

The Church does not say that one must believe or discount as fantasy the first eleven books of the Bible. It is open to the science of the big bang, though closed as to the author of the universe and of life.

I don’t make a judgment actually. I don’t know. I stand by my original statement that it is a mystery that I can live without fully knowing unless and until God chooses to confirm or correct what is said in Genesis. He created everything from nothing. I accept that in faith and it is enough for me.


83 posted on 01/09/2011 6:19:34 PM PST by Jvette
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To: Jvette
Thank you for forgiving me. I appreciate it and am grateful.

I don’t agree with you obviously, but I think you take too seriously what some Catholics feel towards the “fundies” that believe the earth is only a few thousand years old.

You realize, do you not, that "fundie" is an ethno-cultural slur? Why are "fundies" who believe in the literal truth of Genesis 1-11 any more stupid or funny than Catholics who believe in the virgin birth, the Fatima "sun dance," transubstantiation, or any number of other things? Why are any of these the slightest bit more "scientific" or "rational" or "intellectual" than six day young earth creationism? I don't see any difference at all other than "our miracles are great and 'theirs' are stupid."

The Church does not say that one must believe or discount as fantasy the first eleven books of the Bible. It is open to the science of the big bang, though closed as to the author of the universe and of life.

You are wrong. The Catholic Church is at war with the literal interpretation of Genesis and is currently doing everything in its power to discourage and eventually extirpate it so that not one Genesis "literalist" will be left in the Catholic Church. This also means that for all practical purposes belief in evolution has been made into a dogma which one must believe before one can convert to the Catholic Church.

I don’t make a judgment actually. I don’t know. I stand by my original statement that it is a mystery that I can live without fully knowing unless and until God chooses to confirm or correct what is said in Genesis. He created everything from nothing. I accept that in faith and it is enough for me.

Having written Genesis in the first place, why would G-d ever need to "correct" it?

I simply do not understand why you cannot in good conscience accept the literal historical truth of Genesis 1-11. Do you have the same trouble with John 6?

You know . . . mormons don't even claim to believe in creation ex nihilo. They admit that they believe the universe is an eternal thing made up of worlds, each with its own "gxd" (who used to be a man) and that each "saved" person will eventually become a "gxd" of his own world. Yet they don't spend any time attacking the literal interpretation of Genesis. The Catholic Church claims to believe in creatio ex nihilo, yet it is at war with Genesis. Does this make any sense to you?

89 posted on 01/09/2011 7:39:38 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator ('Ashirah leHaShem ki-ga'oh ga'ah, sus verokhevo ramah vayam!)
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