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To: MarkBsnr; Natural Law

It’s a shame, really, because there are brethren among the Protestants who really think and argue well and who bring me up short in a useful way. The breaking of the Body harms every part. I miss them.


243 posted on 01/14/2011 6:45:10 PM PST by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: Mad Dawg; MarkBsnr
"It’s a shame, really, because there are brethren among the Protestants who really think and argue well and who bring me up short in a useful way. The breaking of the Body harms every part. I miss them."

The understanding of any subject or great work requires a definition of terms and a context. Scripture is no different. Along with Scripture, God, through the Holy Spirit, has provided these in the form of Holy Tradition and the Magisterium.

Unfortunately, absent these Protestantism must fabricate their own. Hence the reliance on the so-called fathers of the Reformation, and even less reliably, their own "gut feelings" driven by their own personal experiences, prejudices, and ignorance.

That they differ from the teachings is not a surprise. The very name of their movement, Protestantism declares their differences. That they must falsify the teachings of the Church to justify those differences is actually quite comforting.

When the teachings of the Church are misrepresented on these forums we have a duty to correct them. It is not our obligation to achieve communion with those who disagree by coercing their enlightenment, nor is it acceptable for us to compromise the teachings of the Church for the sake of civil discourse. Those that continue to misrepresent the teachings of the Church after being corrected are lying. Remember what Scripture tells us about these liars:

" You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him Whenever he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own nature, for he is a liar and the father of lies." - John 8:44

244 posted on 01/15/2011 10:44:08 AM PST by Natural Law
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