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To: Cronos
Bkaycee is one of the sincere ones, like the ones who sincerely believe the errors they've been told about the Church. bkaycee, this is what I meant by a big difference between what people hate about the Church teachings and what The Church actually teaches. I personally believe you are sincerely seeking Christ, but as I pointed out to you on another thread, do read what The Church actually believes instead of what others say the Church believes. A beautiful place to start is here ---> it's like what I told you on another thread that The Church does NOT teach that Salvation is by Faith and Works, that is an incorrect statement. salvation can only come from Jesus Christ
I am fairly certain I understand the Roman gospel of Faith and Grace.

I dont believe it is quite what we mean by Salvation by Grace alone, thru Faith alone, in Christ alone.

You agree that initial salvation is totaly by grace (baptismal regeneration). I agree that salvation is a free gift, however, not by baptism, but by Faith.

Catholics believe baptismal water saves for infants, then one must co-operate to maintain this "state of grace", correct?

How can this onging process of co-operation not be considered a work? Trent seems to indicate that it is a grace but also a merit.

183 posted on 01/10/2011 3:56:15 PM PST by bkaycee
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To: bkaycee
God the Son gained our salvation by his death and resurrection; no one else did these things
God the Father planned our salvation, not man.
And God the Holy Spirit infused the very love of God into our hearts by his presence (cf. Rom. 5:5).

All that we do is respond with faith and obedience to God’s offer of grace in Christ. This is a lifelong commitment that we should grow in God's love. God’s grace grows within us as we trust in God more and follow his commandments. The final outcome of a life of faith and obedience is eternal life with God.

Acts 16:31 says, "Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved"
Romans 10:9: "If you confess with your lips that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved."

The Church affirms the teaching of these texts. They are calling us to decisive trust in Christ. Trust in Christ is essential to salvation.
201 posted on 01/11/2011 6:13:53 AM PST by Cronos (Bobby Jindal 2012)
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