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To: Normandy
You make that claim without reading the quotes, Norm! Here, I'll quote your peepstone sexual predator of married women again on his teaching about the god and jesus of Mormonism:

In the beginning, the head of the Gods called a council of the Gods; and they came together and concocted a plan to create the world and people it. (Joseph Smith, Journal of Discourses, Vol. 6, p. 5, 1844)

“I will go back to the beginning, before the world was, to show what kind of a being God is. What sort of a being was God in the beginning? Open your ears and hear, all ye ends of the earth; for I am going to prove it to you by the Bible, and to tell you the designs of God in relation to the human race, and why he interferes with the affairs of man. God himself was once as we are now, and is an exalted Man, and sits enthroned in yonder heavens. That is the great secret. (Joseph Smith, Journal of Discourses, Vol. 6, p. 3, 1844)

“I learned a testimony concerning Abraham, and he reasoned concerning the Gods of heaven. '...Intelligences exist one above another, so that there is no end to them.' If Abraham reasoned thus--If Jesus Christ was the Son of God, and John discovered that God the Father of Jesus Christ had a Father, you may suppose that He had a Father also. Where was there ever a son without a father? And where was there ever a father without first being a son? Whenever did a tree or anything spring into existence without a progenitor? And everything comes in this way. Paul says that which is earthly is in the likeness of that which is heavenly. Hence if Jesus had a Father, can we not believe that He had a Father also? I despise the idea of being scared to death at such a doctrine, for the Bible is full of it. I want you to pay particular attention to what I am saying. Jesus said that the Father wrought precisely in the same way as His Father had done before Him. As the Father had done before? He laid down His life, and took it up the same as His Father had done before. (Joseph Smith, Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 373)

Norm, I understand why you must deny the obvious truth about your blasphemous peepstone prophet and the subsequent blasphemies your leaders have atught. This must scare the bejeebers out of you!

"It is because the Lord called Joseph Smith that salvation is again available to mortal men.... If it had not been for Joseph Smith and the restoration, there would be no salvation," (Bruce McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, p. 396, 670)

You Mormons must fear Joe Smith and the subsequent leadership more than the Lord God! Why else would you endorse their blasphemies? ... And you wonder why we won't give up and remain silent in the face of such blasphemies!


74 posted on 12/20/2010 1:59:32 PM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN

Ok, now we have some direct quotes from Joseph Smith.

Why should I be scared of them?

I don’t believe the Bible contains all the information out there about God — I’m happy to find new revelations and learn new truths.

As far as Bruce McConkie’s quote goes, it is not that Joseph Smith is the one who provides salvation — vital truths and authority were missing from the earth which were restored by God through Joseph Smith.

Best regards,

Normandy


84 posted on 12/20/2010 2:21:07 PM PST by Normandy
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