[big'ol_freeper]

RE: I have been doing biblical exegesis for 30 years - so shut up. You are in error.

LOL... just because you claim to have being doing it does not mean you are doing it with any understanding. Your emotional outburst demonstrates that you know that.

Open wide your heart to Christ. Let Him lead you, not some silly man-made notional of individual magisterical superiority garnered from a false man-made doctrine of sola scriptura. Come into the light.

[markomalley]

lucifer = Latin for light bringer. Classically used as The morning-star, the planet Venus.

quomodo cecidisti de caelo lucifer qui mane oriebaris corruisti in terram qui vulnerabas gentes

So I never realized that the inspired translators referred back to the Vulgate for their inspiration.

Just amazing.