Posted on 11/15/2010 11:41:13 AM PST by Cvengr
DOCTRINE OF THE HOLOCAUST
Eph 954, 12/13/88; 4/24/83; 5/29/83 Rev 12:13
A. Definition of Holocaust.
1. Holocaust means devastation. It includes all persecution of the Jews or the violent expression of anti-Semitism.
2. Anti-Semitism is evil. It is motivated by Satan himself. His objective is to destroy all Jews on the earth prior to the Second Advent of Christ so that Christ cannot fulfill the unconditional covenants to Israel.
3. Degeneracy is the decline from normal or superior standards to inferior or subnormal standards. Degeneracy is loss of integrity, resulting in a state of deterioration; it is the process of passing from the higher to the lower, therefore to decline progressively. The progressive decline includes three stages.
a. Implosion is self-fragmentation.
b. Explosion is polarized fragmentation.
c. Reversion is the degeneracy of declining progressively.
4. Blackout of the soul plus scar tissue of the soul equals religious degeneracy or historical degeneracy. Historical degeneracy persecutes religious degeneracy, as seen when Hitler and Nazi Germany persecuted the Jews of Europe, or when Czar Nicholas II and Alexander III persecuted the Jews in Russia.
5. Religious degeneracy of the Jews is defined as going from the superior standards of the Mosaic Law to the inferior standards of fragmentation and reversionism.
6. Historical degeneracy is defined as going from the superior standards of establishment power and authority to the inferior and subnormal standards which distort authority into tyranny and power, resulting in persecution.
7. Historical degeneracy persecutes religious degeneracy except where religious degeneracy has historical power, as occurred in Spain in the fifteenth century, and with the Catholic Church during the Middle Ages.
8. In reverse process reversionism, the superior standard is always rejected for the inferior standard through the process of decline, called reversionism. In Christianity, the superior standard of the protocol plan of God is rejected, and the inferior standard of legalism or antinomianism is substituted as the modus operandi of the degenerate believer.
9. In BC 1441, the world's record for scar tissue of the soul was held by historical degeneracy (Pharaoh of the Exodus). Beginning in the dispensation of the Hypostatic Union the world's record held by religious degeneracy (the blindness of Israel).
10. Historical degeneracy persecutes the Jews' religious degeneracy in every generation of the Jewish age and Church Age. This is a historical trend of the Church Age. If the nation of Israel during the Church Age reaches the point of religious degeneracy, then some Gentile nation will wipe it out. Rev 17:16ff.
a. God uses evil to destroy evil, arrogance to destroy arrogance and degeneracy to destroy degeneracy. Evil is always a function of self-determination.
b. Holocaust occurs in the last half of the Tribulation, when the beast (political or historical degeneracy) destroys the prostitute (religious degeneracy).
c. Political degeneracy of the Revived Roman Empire persecutes and destroys religious degeneracy of the Tribulation (the prostitute).
d. In this holocaust, no human volition is violated.
e. Holocaust judgment dramatizes the fact that mankind is simply the product of his own volition.
f. Evil is the product of human volition. God uses the wrath of man to praise Him, Ps 76:10f.
g. Jesus Christ controls history. He often uses the volition of evil to destroy the volition of evil.
11. Blackout of the soul is failure to recognize Jesus Christ as the God-man. Scar tissue of the soul is rejection of Christ as Savior. Together they equal religious degeneracy, which is tantamount to reverse process reversionism. By rejecting Christ, the Jews in each generation of the Church Age hold the record for scar tissue of the soul.
12. See the Doctrine of Christian Degeneracy for documentation of scar tissue of the soul as the cause for degeneracy.
B. Why the Holocaust?
1. Passive arrogance demands the function of active arrogance against it.
2. Passive arrogance is generally associated with freedom and prosperity for three or four generations.
3. The freedom and prosperity originates from a large pivot of believers plus the principles of establishment. All of this is the basis for development of passive arrogance.
4. Passive arrogance accepts freedom and prosperity totally apart from human virtue and a sense of responsibility. Passive arrogance assumes one has a right to all those blessings without any adherence to the laws of divine establishment.
5. Passive arrogance by the Jews of the dispersion results in active arrogance on the part of their persecutors.
6. No nation or race ever experiences a holocaust without the historical demand for it.
7. Hence, negative volition, apostasy, and passive arrogance of indifference creates the vacuum which attracts the persecution of active arrogance, holocaust and historical disaster.
C. Evil demands evil and cruelty demands cruelty, because passive arrogance demands the function of active arrogance against it.
1. Active arrogance punishes passive arrogance until the active arrogance through prosperity also becomes passive.
2. Today a nation can be the instrument of punishment through active arrogance and tomorrow the victim of holocaust through enjoying prosperity too well and entering into passive arrogance.
3. The punishing group generally has to be very cruel to punish cruelty. It must be evil to punish evil in another group.
4. This has always been the pattern of history and therefore, part of the historical trend, which explains the Jewish holocaust and the rise and fall of nations and empires.
5. Satan with active arrogance frustrated by his fall from heaven in the middle of the Tribulation is the instrument of punishment of the Jews in the last half of the Tribulation. Through cosmic involvement these Jews have entered into a state of passive arrogance, which always attracts active arrogance.
6. Therefore, the group who practice anti-Semitism generally possess an active arrogance plus evil. This causes them to gravitate to passive arrogance and attack it from a position of evil.
7. This does not justify anti-Semitism, but explains it in terms of historical trends.
8. The Jews who will be the victims of Satan in the middle of the Tribulation are those apostate Jews who have developed passive arrogance through their residence and function in the cosmic system. This can be illustrated by the Spanish Inquisition.
D. Both ideology and religion destroy virtue, and the national instinct of grace and tolerance.
1. This is because religion produces arrogance and ignorance, cruelty and persecution, which overrides tolerance and substitutes cruelty.
2. Since a religious society cannot think or reason, it becomes emotional with blind arrogance. And this emotion produces mob violence, persecution of passive arrogance, and cruelty resulting in holocaust.
3. Religion stifles freedom, e.g., Spain in the Middle ages.
4. Religion doesn't allow others to make mistakes, but persecutes them vigorously, e.g., Islam.
5. Medieval history records the rise of towns, the development of mobs to function under the principle of arrogance and intolerance; therefore the terrorism of active arrogance.
6. Therefore, anti-Semitism alternates with tolerance toward the Jew, but never for more than three or four generations. During the Medieval times the Jews bounced back and forth between Romanism and Islamic persecution.
7. When our decisions lead us to the point of passive arrogance, there is always some barbaric group ready to attack. As active arrogance develops, you get to the point of insanity.
E. Anti-Semitism.
1. A great nation is built on humility, never arrogance. Humility tolerates, never persecutes, and produces virtue. Arrogance produces evil.
2. When humility and virtue existed, the Jews were tolerated and accepted. But where arrogance existed they were persecuted.
3. However, the Jewish victims had developed a passive arrogance to attract the active arrogance of anti-Semitism. The same is true with any race.
4. Active arrogance is inspired by an outside source, Satan and his cosmic system. But passive arrogance is produced from an inside source, bad decisions from a position of weakness.
5. Passive arrogance is subjective toward its victims, while active arrogance is objective toward its victims. Therefore, active arrogance initiates the cruelty, the anti-Semitism.
6. Active arrogance is motivated by hatred, implacability, and vindictiveness, while passive arrogance is motivated by a sense of superiority, self-righteousness and hypocrisy.
7. Passive arrogance persecutes in a civilized way through sarcasm, ridicule, slander; while active arrogance persecutes in a barbaric way through violence, cruelty, annihilation and extermination.
8. Passive arrogance does not kill its victims directly. Active arrogance tortures, mutilates and murders.
9. When active arrogance attacks active arrogance we call it war. But when active arrogance attacks passive arrogance we call it persecution.
F. Many Jews have escaped anti-Semitism because they lived in the environment of Christian virtue, which has impersonal love and tolerance toward all.
1. In the environment of toleration the Jew is accepted, loved, respected, and tolerated even under principles of establishment freedom.
2. Such environment requires a large pivot of mature believers and general prosperity in the client nation.
3. That pivot becomes the nucleus for the nations prosperity and provides blessing by association.
4. From national prosperity often comes arrogance, the failure to pass the prosperity test. The leaders and a majority of citizens become involved in the cosmic system.
5. The arrogant nation develops two basic categories of failure.
a. Holocaust, in which active arrogance persecutes passive arrogance.
b. Historical disaster, caused by social degeneration, economic depression and military defeat.
6. The nation involved might be classified as apostate and have a triple collective identification.
a. National decisions from a position of weakness destroy the nation.
b. Historical loss of a national sense of destiny or a false sense of destiny, like interference in the affairs of other nations.
c. National loss of control through bad foreign and domestic policy, or both.
G. Under the principle that passive arrogance attracts persecution from active arrogance, it must be concluded that the holocaust cannot exist apart from bad decisions on the part of the victims.
1. Individuals and groups must take the responsibility for their own decisions. Many bad decisions from a position of weakness on the part of the victims cannot be ignored.
2. The Jews who rejected Christ have through their own free will rejected the signs which God provided for Israel: circumcision, the Exodus miracles, the virgin birth, the sign of the cross, and the resurrection.
H. The Holocaust Syndrome.
1. Like the double entendre of Rev 12:2, to the unbelieving Jew the Messiah has never been born. Therefore the Jews' historic suffering is the holocaust pregnancy, anti-Semitism during the dispersion.
2. Since to the unbelieving Jew the virgin birth has never taken place, both his historical and eschatological suffering from anti-Semitism is called holocaust pregnancy, intense labor pains with no delivery.
3. Therefore, the result is the holocaust syndrome.
a. Negative decisions from a position of weakness when they reject the virgin birth, and therefore the rejection of Christ as Saviour.
b. This means loss of control of their lives. They do not have the protection of the plan of God against historical disaster.
c. The Jew cannot relate to Messianic passages of the Old Testament; therefore, he has no personal sense of destiny.
4. Since man is the product of his own decisions, not his environment, he brings on the holocaust of anti-Semitism through his own personal decisions.
I. In the eschatological holocaust of the Tribulation, born-again Jews are delivered by the Second Advent.
1. Hence, under the analogy of the double entendre: the deliverance of Christ at the virgin birth is analogous to the deliverance of believing Israel at the Second Advent.
2. Believing Jews with Bible doctrine come through the last half of the Tribulation unhurt because they are in the plan of God for the Millennium.
3. Unbelieving Jews of the Tribulation follow the analogy of never being delivered, for to them Christ has not yet been born. Hence, they are not born again but continue in the labor pains of the holocaust.
4. The unbelieving Jews want the crown without the cross. This is the analogy between the Jewish holocaust of the Tribulation and the torture of the pregnant mother who can't be delivered. Labor pains continue for the unbelieving Jew until he believes in Christ.
5. Jews can't evade the responsibility for their bad decisions. In arrogance and unbelief they invite holocaust treatment.
6. No believer with doctrine will ever participate in the persecution of Jews or anyone else. Without truth in its three categories, neither the individual, nation, nor group can have a personal sense of destiny. Loss of a personal sense of destiny results in passive arrogance which will not fight back against active arrogance.
7. Christian activism is active arrogance and evil.
While many may argue against some of the positions within, this study provides some intense insight regarding the likely behavior of national bodies of believers and unbelievers, in situations the US faces internationally today.
From this defintion of degeneracy: "Historical degeneracy is defined as going from the superior standards of establishment power and authority to the inferior and subnormal standards which distort authority into tyranny and power, resulting in persecution." ,... it is easy to associate many in US politics as being in various stages of degeneracy, be it legalistic or antinomian, or simply unbeliever degeneracy from arrogance.
This is provided to point out for believers, that there will be a temptation for believers to actively react to antiChristian power systems, which may be equally as disastrous, if we fail to remain in faith through Christ.
If anybody has studied similar doctrines, touching upon historical trends consequent to generations which have fallen out of fellowship with God, and the consequent divine discipline and regression, please respond for further discussion and advancement in such study.
For those who are not familiar, the doctrines presented in now way advocate antisemitism nor the Holocaust.
Instead, this study is of historical trends from a Christian perspective, understanding History as guided by God, from the context of other Bible Doctrines (faith).
Lessons available from this study point to the importance of Bible study, continually remaining in prayer with God through faith in Christ, and returning to Him with short accounts, so that no matter what situation we find ourselves, we may continue to advance by His Plan.
Never quite thought of it this way... but it makes sense.
A. Definition of Holocaust. 1. Holocaust means devastation. It includes all persecution of the Jews or the violent expression of anti-Semitism.
The first thing I noticed is that the definition is too broad. The literal meaning of holocaust is "burnt offering", from the dictionary...
"Totality of destruction has been central to the meaning of holocaust since it first appeared in Middle English in the 14th century, used in reference to the biblical sacrifice in which a male animal was wholly burnt on the altar in worship of God. Holocaust comes from Greek holokauston ("that which is completely burnt"), which was a translation of Hebrew 'lâ (literally "that which goes up," that is, in smoke). In this sense of "burnt sacrifice," holocaust is still used in some versions of the Bible. "
The bible mentions that G-d uses the nations to afflict His people for sin and also that the nations went way to far. Hence, when the nation of Israel is redeemed, G-d will judge the nations. Israel will not be afflicted anymore. Nahum 1: Thus says the LORD,"Though they are at full strength and likewise many,Even so, they will be cut off and pass away Though I have afflicted you,I will afflict you no longer. Israel 40: 1 Comfort, comfort my people, says your God. 2 Speak tenderly to Jerusalem, and proclaim to her that her hard service has been completed, that her sin has been paid for, that she has received from the LORD’s hand double for all her sins.
It is motivated by Satan himself. His objective is to destroy all Jews on the earth prior to the Second Advent of Christ so that Christ cannot fulfill...
Anti-semitism is not motivated by Satan, but sin. As noted above it is part of G-ds plan than nations will afflict G-ds people. Satan does not have the power to kill all the Jews. It has nothing to do with Jesus.
Historical degeneracy persecutes religious degeneracy, as seen when Hitler and Nazi Germany persecuted the Jews of Europe,5. Religious degeneracy of the Jews is defined as going from the superior standards of the Mosaic Law to the inferior standards of fragmentation and reversionism.
The author is way of base here insinuating that the Jews of Europe were religious degenerates? Yes, some of the Jews had embraced reformed Judaism not the majority. Therefore, he is calling G-d a spiritual degenrate since the Jews were/are faithful to His Holy word. What an outrage.
Beginning in the dispensation of the Hypostatic Union the world's record held by religious degeneracy (the blindness of Israel).
Another outrage. It is not religious degeneracy to reject the heresy of the hypostatic union. The god-man hybrid of this "dispensation" is nowhere to be found in the Tanach (OT). It is purely an invention of pagan Grecco-Roman culture.
This article is long...more later. But I havent seen some much filth since reading Martin Luther's of the Jews and their Lies......the real underpinning of the Holocaust.
Thanks for the feedback.
I hadn’t studied the etymology of the term Holocaust, as presented here, but that does manifest quite a bit. Both regarding the Greek and Hebrew origins.
WRT religious degeneracy, the study places faith in God through what He has provided in Christ Jesus. Had He not been resurrected nor ascended, then from a worldly perspective only relying on a different interpretation of the OT canon, not identifying Jesus Christ as both Son of God and Son of Man might have some academic merit, but history is substantially beyond that point, not to mention the authority given Him at the Session.
The doctrine of the hypostatic union goes far in better describing the role of Christ Jesus during the first Advent.
We both agree to the Lord and God being one God, in the sense of the Alpha glory, but where we might differ is that I also identify with His role in the Omega glory as the god-man in Christ Jesus.
If you get a chance, you may want to study and consider the doctrine of the Hypostatic Union, not by what man provides, but by what God the Holy Spirit is able to lead.
Thanks for the ping!
I have been to his church.
Jews have not rejected circumsion or the exodus miracles, so I'm not sure where the author gets that.
The virgin birth was not prophesied in Isaiah that is why it is rejected.
Is 7 is about a prophecy of a young woman, not virgin and She is to name him Immanuel. The sign is for King Ahaz. What was the sign? Not a virgin birth! But by the time the child reaches the age of maturity, the two enemy kings will be dealt with. It is not the birth of the child but the age of the child that is the sign!
A virgin birth that would occur 700 years in the future would be of NO value to King Ahaz. Mary did not name Jesus Immanuel. Jesus in the greek is the hebrew name Joshua or Yehoshua. Two completely different meanings. Jesus has nothing to do with Isaiah 7.
The cross is also rejected by Jewish teaching because A) Human sacrifice is forbidden B) Human vicarious atonement is forbidden C) The cross is a invalid form of sacrfice and invalid place of sacrifice. Jesus did not sacrifice by rapid blood loss at the neck but suffocated. What blood was shed was not sprinkled on the altar and hid fat and innards were not burned. He therefore was not a sacrifice of anykind.
The resurection is not a valid sign of the messiah. We will all be resurrected in the end of days, so that is not a unique event of the messiah.
Jews can't evade the responsibility for their bad decisions. In arrogance and unbelief they invite holocaust treatment.
Blame the victim? It is teachings of the church that lead to the holocaust...not the Jews or their behavior.
I meant to touch on this too. FRiend I have studied the hypostatic union at length for many years. It is a wholly pagan concept not rooted in scripture.
Deut 49 Only be careful, and watch yourselves closely so that you do not forget the things your eyes have seen or let them fade from your heart as long as you live. Teach them to your children and to their children after them. 10 Remember the day you stood before the LORD your God at Horeb, when he said to me, “Assemble the people before me to hear my words so that they may learn to revere me as long as they live in the land and may teach them to their children.” 11 You came near and stood at the foot of the mountain while it blazed with fire to the very heavens, with black clouds and deep darkness. 12 Then the LORD spoke to you out of the fire. You heard the sound of words but saw no form; there was only a voice. 13 He declared to you his covenant, the Ten Commandments, which he commanded you to follow and then wrote them on two stone tablets. 14 And the LORD directed me at that time to teach you the decrees and laws you are to follow in the land that you are crossing the Jordan to possess.
15 You saw no form of any kind the day the LORD spoke to you at Horeb out of the fire. Therefore watch yourselves very carefully, 16 so that you do not become corrupt and make for yourselves an idol, an image of any shape, whether formed like a man or a woman,....
Hosea 11:9 I will not execute the fierceness of mine anger, I will not return to destroy Ephraim: for I am God, and not a man; the Holy One in the midst of thee: and I will not enter into the city.
Numbers 23:19 God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the Son of Man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good?
Isaiah 18 To whom then will you liken God? Or what likeness will you compare with Him?
Isaiah 46 To whom would you liken Me And make Me equal and compare Me, That we would be alike?
Exodus 20:4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. 5Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting...
You saw NO FORM, I am G-d and not a man, to what likeness will you compare, Whom would you liken to him, do not worship ANY likeness in heaven, on earth or below the sea.
G-d goes out of His way to make it clear. He is ALONE, solitary, One: Isaiah 43: Before me no god was formed, nor will there be one after me. 11 I, even I, am the LORD, and apart from me there is no savior. 12 I have revealed and saved and proclaimed— I,
No other savior...I have revealed! No addtional information of G-ds nature to be revealed...that is it. One G-d, fully revealed at Sinai...
The hypostatic union makes G-d out to be a liar. For thousands of years the Jewish (Israelites)people believe in a G-d who is not a man or object, they are punished (exiled) for pursuing other gods and then 1500 years after Sinai, we are supposed to believe that G-d is now a man? That he hid his nature from us? Told us he is alone when he is not? He has 3 personages in the godhead not one? That a human personage is also in the god head? That he killed himself for our sins when a blood sacrifice isnt even required (Lev 5:11) When repentance, charity and prayer are perfectly acceptable means of grace? No to all of that. G-d does not require us to accept a new Torah, the Original Torah, the Original Gospel is forever. Deut 4:2" You shall not add to the word which I am commanding you, nor take away from it, that you may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you.
Martin Luther: YIMACH SHEMO!
R. B. Thieme, Jr.: YIMACH SHEMO!
B'H
Ditto.
Why do you want to judge them, when there already is one more righteous in heaven who has that authority to judge?
For so many centuries we have kept our voices quiet for fear of retribution from the teachings and writings of such Jew-haters such as Luther. People such as Thieme exacerbate the situation. Never again. HaShem gave us the ability to take information, disseminate it and formulate an opinion and I am exercising that option.
...and Yes. HaShem is in control of everything and will be the final judge of men.
B'H
Thieme didn’t hate Jews, but blessed the vine through his devotion to the Word and letting God handle the situation.
Besides, faithful Jews recognize Jesus Christ as the God of Israel, the future King of Israel, the King of Kings, Lord of Lords, and is in Session until His enemies are made a footstool unto Him. The Alpha and the Omega.
All Faithful Jews consider themselves Faithful Jews.
You have much to learn.
B'H
Study the objects of these actions.
The object of faith in what God provides is Jesus Christ, which is considered by God to be righteousness, for it it is the same thing as the faith Christ has in the Father.
The object of thinking in the example provided above, is not in God, but in the self. Arrogance is simply placing the object of thinking in the self, as opposed to others.
God's provision allows us to place our faith in Him in all things, without placing ourselves first.
You may want to first read the notes posted.
There was a sacrifice recognized by God the Father on the Cross, while all sins were imputed to the Son and judged at the Cross.
Consider the spiritual death in which the penalty for sin was paid for all mankind.
Which didn't stop them from demanding that Jesus be crucified.
They were within their rights to ask for the death penaly but not crucifixion, per Deut 18;
Deut 18:20 "But a prophet who presumes to speak in my name anything I have not commanded, or a prophet who speaks in the name of other gods, is to be put to death.”
Jesus did presume to speak in the name of G-d things He did not command. Therefore Jesus was not a sacrifice but judged a false prophet.
Not sure what you mean there.
There was a sacrifice recognized by God the Father on the Cross, while all sins were imputed to the Son and judged at the Cross.
No, that is what is alleged by the church but is not biblical. A) There is not one scripture in all of the Jewish scripture that prophecies "one sacrifice for all". Not one. On the contrary, Ezek 44 says that when the Jews return, the 3rd Temple is rebuilt and sacrifices will return on a continuous basis, the preisthood is re-established and they will teach the people what is clean, unclean and even to go into the temple courts, you have to be circumsized of the FLESH and the spirit. All of which Jesus suposedly ended.
B)The cross is never specified as a place of acceptable sacrifice. Only the altar. Even when Abraham offered up Issac, he did so on an altar (site of the future temple altar) and with a knife to Issac throat. So Abraham was prepared to sacrifice him per the Torah's instructions, slit Issacs throat for rapid blood loss and burn his fat and innards on the altar. So, what does G-d do? stops him and says no to human sacrifice and presents a proper sacrifice...an animal. What was the cross? a suffocation machine. He didnt die of having his throat slit. And he was burned on the altar.
G-d tells us: "Take heed to thyself that thou be not snared by following them, after that they be destroyed from before thee; and that thou inquire not after their gods, saying, How did these nations serve their gods? even so will I do likewise. Thou shalt not do so unto the Eternal thy God: for every abomination to the Eternal, which he hateth, have they done unto their gods; for even their sons and their daughters they have burnt in the fire to their gods. Deuteronomy 12:30-31
Because they have forsaken me, and have estranged this place, and have burned incense in it unto other gods, whom neither they nor their fathers have known, nor the kings of Judah, and have filled this place with the blood of innocents; They have built also the high places of Baal, to burn their sons with fire for burnt offerings unto Baal, which I commanded not, nor spake it, neither came it into my mind: Jer 19:4
So, G-d hates the shedding of innocent blood. (Jesus was innocent) And human sacrifice that He commanded not, spoke it, nor did it even enter his mind!
And yet we are to then turn around and believe that God changed His mind, and required human sacrifice, the shedding of innocent blood and then it was the sacrifice of His own human son that God wanted? After telling the Jews to stay away from pagan practices, and pagan beliefs, God then changes His mind and says, "Okay, now go ahead and believe in a human sacrifice, just as these very pagans believe?" G-d violates his own Torah? Breaks His own commandments? NO.
Consider the spiritual death in which the penalty for sin was paid for all mankind.
Each man is responsible for his own sin Ezekiel 18. There is no Original Sin. The sin of Adam is not fatal for all mankind. G-d doesnt even call Adams disobience sin. The first time the word Sin even appears is Gen 4:7 When G-d warns cain.And if Adam and Eve had to eat the fruit of the Tree Of Life to become immortal, then God made them mortal to begin with. Adam and Eve were created in such a way that Death was a natural part of their existence, from the moment of their Creation. So, this doctrine of Paul's is just wrong.
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