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Priests have been 'worse' than silent on contraception, says canon law expert
CNA ^ | 9/16/2010

Posted on 09/18/2010 6:01:25 AM PDT by markomalley

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To: Vaquero
there were too many people in America (200 million) when I was a kid....now there are 300 million and it is getting out of control.

So hell is other people, then? I don't remember that being a Christian teaching...
41 posted on 09/18/2010 6:58:44 PM PDT by Antoninus (It's long past time for conservatives to stop voting for Republican liberals. Enough!)
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To: vladimir998

Who could argue with logic like that?


42 posted on 09/18/2010 7:12:09 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: count-your-change

You’re not using logic at all. Can you refute anything in the article I linked to?

No, apparently you can’t.


43 posted on 09/18/2010 7:32:29 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Part of the Vast Catholic Conspiracy (hat tip to Kells))
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To: vladimir998

I will let the rape victim make that decision...but very quickly after the incident.


44 posted on 09/18/2010 7:32:59 PM PDT by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: Vaquero

So murdering babies is okay according to you as long as it doesn’t look much like a baby. Gee, that really eases your conscience doesn’t it?


45 posted on 09/18/2010 7:36:46 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Part of the Vast Catholic Conspiracy (hat tip to Kells))
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To: narses
When have we EVER been “overpopulated” and what wars or diseases have “cured” that condition?

WW 1 we had both the war and the 1917 influenza epidemic and in my opinion we were overpopulated then and are even more overpopulated now....hence current world unrest and things like the aids epidemic.

it is my opinion that we are overpopulated and we all know what opinions are like...(we have with our technology made overpopulation easier, what with medicines and tampering with the genetic code of food production...fishing the seas clean of fish, which is also happening...this will eventually collapse and then we are in for a world of hurt...)

46 posted on 09/18/2010 7:41:56 PM PDT by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: vladimir998

Pettifogging.

I didn’t read the article you linked to since you said it didn’t matter if you had failed to make your case. It was your views and that of other Catholics that was the point of discussion.


47 posted on 09/18/2010 7:47:26 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: vladimir998
So murdering babies is okay according to you as long as it doesn’t look much like a baby. Gee, that really eases your conscience doesn’t it?

I never had an abortion...I wouldn't know.

if however a distraught woman needs to shed some cells, I am not as upset as if it was in the 3rd, 2nd or even late in the 1st trimester.....

I am not a holy man nor am I a biologist.... I don't know at what point God blows the soul into a human life....

I do know I am not going to convince you nor you me...so I plan on making this my last post to you....goodbye.

48 posted on 09/18/2010 7:49:18 PM PDT by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: Antoninus
So hell is other people, then? I don't remember that being a Christian teaching...

NO...too many people is overcrowding...and my opinions are my own and not a reflection of my Catholic Christian upbringing....as a free thinking, American, human being I have the right and in my opinion a duty to not only make that observation, but to spread the word.....

but your luddite-ism, bores me, so I will no longer answer your holier than though comments.....Goodbye.

49 posted on 09/18/2010 7:58:20 PM PDT by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: count-your-change

You wrote:

“Pettifogging. I didn’t read the article you linked to since you said it didn’t matter if you had failed to make your case.”

I posted a link to the article LONG BEFORE you ever said I had failed to make a case. Go back and look at post #7.
For you to now claim you never read it because of anything I said dozens of posts later makes no sense.


50 posted on 09/18/2010 8:09:30 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Part of the Vast Catholic Conspiracy (hat tip to Kells))
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To: Vaquero

You wrote:

“I never had an abortion...I wouldn’t know.”

So you’re saying you don’t know about abortion, but it’s okay to murder children? You’re not making any sense.

“if however a distraught woman needs to shed some cells, I am not as upset as if it was in the 3rd, 2nd or even late in the 1st trimester.....”

Oh, so now a human being is just some cells? Sounds like a Nazi calling Jews just some subhumans.

“I am not a holy man nor am I a biologist.... I don’t know at what point God blows the soul into a human life....”

Clearly when the human life is created. There would be no other time. Souls do not exist in creatures that are not alive.

“I do know I am not going to convince you nor you me...so I plan on making this my last post to you....goodbye.”

And what I know is that you will continue to support baby killing and make lousy excuses for it just like any other liberal would.


51 posted on 09/18/2010 8:14:28 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Part of the Vast Catholic Conspiracy (hat tip to Kells))
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To: count-your-change
"...if the Catholic Church views contraception as a “grave sin” it has failed utterly to impress that upon its members.

That's probably because most Catholics have never heard what the Church actually teaches, only the opinions of the media, some celebrity, or political pundit, about what the Church teaches.

52 posted on 09/18/2010 8:24:00 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: Vaquero
NO...too many people is overcrowding...and my opinions are my own and not a reflection of my Catholic Christian upbringing....as a free thinking, American, human being I have the right and in my opinion a duty to not only make that observation, but to spread the word.....

Spread the word if you must, but know you are not doing God's Will by doing so.
53 posted on 09/18/2010 8:57:44 PM PDT by Antoninus (It's long past time for conservatives to stop voting for Republican liberals. Enough!)
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To: Vaquero
WW 1 we had both the war and the 1917 influenza epidemic and in my opinion we were overpopulated then and are even more overpopulated now....
Snort. Laugh. ROTFLMAO! BTW, how did either WWI or the Great Flu epidemic CURE the alleged 'overpopulation'? More people are alive now than then, so what was the 'cure'?
54 posted on 09/18/2010 10:23:49 PM PDT by narses ( 'Prefer nothing to the love of Christ.')
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To: Vaquero

“NO...too many people is overcrowding...”

So how many are just right?


55 posted on 09/18/2010 10:24:37 PM PDT by narses ( 'Prefer nothing to the love of Christ.')
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To: SuziQ
I have no doubt that is so.
But where are the shepherds if the sheep are relying upon the sources mentioned for instruction? I simply cannot imagine a shepherd leaving the majority of his flock in the grip of what he views as a grave sin and not dropping everything to rescue them as if they were in a burning building.
56 posted on 09/18/2010 10:30:25 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: vladimir998
vladi, I don't have to read or refute, your unsupported opinions are just that and no more. You're welcome to them, just don't ask me to play your silly word games.
57 posted on 09/18/2010 10:56:53 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: Antoninus

And you would be right. It isn’t easy being as saintly as yourself. When is your beatification?


58 posted on 09/19/2010 3:53:23 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: count-your-change

You wrote:

“vladi, I don’t have to read or refute, your unsupported opinions are just that and no more. You’re welcome to them, just don’t ask me to play your silly word games.”

Either read the article or don’t. But don’t claim it was posted after something you posted when it was posted long beforehand. If you want to be dishonest, that’s your choice, but it doesn’t exactly help your case. Post #7 is no word game.


59 posted on 09/19/2010 4:57:07 AM PDT by vladimir998 (Part of the Vast Catholic Conspiracy (hat tip to Kells))
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To: Antoninus
Spread the word if you must, but know you are not doing God's Will by doing so.

I was not going to answer any further posts...

but you have ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA what God wants...other than your smug, holier than thou INTERPRETATION of the bible.

60 posted on 09/19/2010 5:08:34 AM PDT by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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