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Intended Catholic Dictatorship
Independent Individualist ^ | 8/27/10 | Reginald Firehammer

Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief

Intended Catholic Dictatorship

The ultimate intention of Catholicism is the restoration of the Holy Roman Empire. That has always been the ambition, at least covertly, but now it is being promoted overtly and openly.

The purpose of this article is only to make that intention clear. It is not a criticism of Catholics or Catholicism (unless you happen to think a Catholic dictatorship is not a good thing).

The most important point is to understand that when a Catholic talks about liberty or freedom, it is not individual liberty that is meant, not the freedom to live one's life as a responsible individual with the freedom to believe as one chooses, not the freedom to pursue happiness, not the freedom to produce and keep what one has produced as their property. What Catholicism means by freedom, is freedom to be a Catholic, in obedience to the dictates of Rome.

The Intentions Made Plain

The following is from the book Revolution and Counter-Revolution:

"B. Catholic Culture and Civilization

"Therefore, the ideal of the Counter-Revolution is to restore and promote Catholic culture and civilization. This theme would not be sufficiently enunciated if it did not contain a definition of what we understand by Catholic culture and Catholic civilization. We realize that the terms civilization and culture are used in many different senses. Obviously, it is not our intention here to take a position on a question of terminology. We limit ourselves to using these words as relatively precise labels to indicate certain realities. We are more concerned with providing a sound idea of these realities than with debating terminology.

"A soul in the state of grace possesses all virtues to a greater or lesser degree. Illuminated by faith, it has the elements to form the only true vision of the universe.

"The fundamental element of Catholic culture is the vision of the universe elaborated according to the doctrine of the Church. This culture includes not only the learning, that is, the possession of the information needed for such an elaboration, but also the analysis and coordination of this information according to Catholic doctrine. This culture is not restricted to the theological, philosophical, or scientific field, but encompasses the breadth of human knowledge; it is reflected in the arts and implies the affirmation of values that permeate all aspects of life.

"Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church.

Got that? "Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church." The other name for this is called "totalitarianism," the complete rule of every aspect of life.

This book and WEB sites like that where it is found are spreading like wildfire. These people do not believe the hope of America is the restoration of the liberties the founders sought to guarantee, these people believe the only hope for America is Fatima. Really!

In Their Own Words

The following is from the site, "RealCatholicTV." It is a plain call for a "benevolent dictatorship, a Catholic monarch;" their own words. They even suggest that when the "Lord's Payer," is recited, it is just such a Catholic dictatorship that is being prayed for.

[View video in original here or on Youtube. Will not show in FR.]

Two Comments

First, in this country, freedom of speech means that anyone may express any view no matter how much anyone else disagrees with that view, or is offended by it. I totally defend that meaning of freedom of speech.

This is what Catholics believe, and quite frankly, I do not see how any consistent Catholic could disagree with it, though I suspect some may. I have no objection to their promoting those views, because it is what they believe. Quite frankly I am delighted they are expressing them openly. For one thing, it makes it much easier to understand Catholic dialog, and what they mean by the words they use.

Secondly, I think if their views were actually implemented, it would mean the end true freedom, of course, but I do not believe there is any such danger.

—Reginald Firehammer (06/28/10)


TOPICS: Activism; Catholic; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
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To: RnMomof7
"BTW it was to a thief that Jesus promised heaven ...."

But not that thief.

7,561 posted on 09/29/2010 11:31:16 AM PDT by Natural Law (A lie is a known untruth expressed as truth. A liar is the one who tells it.)
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To: RnMomof7

Read post #7531 for a deeper understanding from Aquinas

In a hurry for meeting!


7,562 posted on 09/29/2010 11:34:33 AM PDT by stfassisi ((The greatest gift God gives us is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi)))
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To: Natural Law
The real issue is that he was an accused sodomite who fled France under a cloud of suspicion. I only bring it up in the context of the double standard applied by the anti-Catholics. Where they are so quick to condemn Catholics they are reluctant to admit any problems in their own clergy and fiercely defensive of the sinless reputation of the fathers of the reformation.

He should have stayed and become a priest, he would have fit right in with the sodomites and fornicators in the priesthood huh?

BTW The accusation came from a catholic that hated reformed doctrine.. not a 7 year old altarboy

7,563 posted on 09/29/2010 11:37:48 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: Natural Law; 1000 silverlings; OLD REGGIE; RnMomof7; metmom; blue-duncan
You may have yourself convinced of your superior holiness, and you may even have a few other Kool-aid drinkers fooled as well, but I'm not buying into it and I'm dead certain that the Jedi Mind Trick isn't going to work on God either.

Mother Teresa's book and lack of faith have nothing to do with my faith or "holiness," although I realize it is the pattern of RC apologists to personalize these discussions. But they should resist the urge. It's not the topic.

The topic is Mother Teresa's 50-year loss of faith whcich goes a long way in explaining why she could so easily ignore the Gospel and instead preach the benefits of Hinduism, Buddhism and assorted other pagan beliefs.

When a person discards the truth, all lies look more appealing.

"He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.

But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death." -- Rev. 21:7-8

Did you get the order of those offenses? Before murderers and sorcerers, "the fearful and unbelieving" top the list of those whose end is not good.

7,564 posted on 09/29/2010 11:45:27 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Judith Anne; Dr. Eckleburg
Neither did Mother Teresa. That's the point.

"So many unanswered questions live within me afraid to uncover them — because of the blasphemy — If there be God — please forgive me — When I try to raise my thoughts to Heaven — there is such convicting emptiness that those very thoughts return like sharp knives & hurt my very soul. — I am told God loves me — and yet the reality of darkness & coldness & emptiness is so great that nothing touches my soul.

Eight years later, she was still looking to reclaim her lost faith.

What do I labor for?" she asked in one letter. "If there be no God, there can be no soul. If there be no soul then, Jesus, You also are not true."

"Such deep longing for God… Repulsed, empty, no faith, no love, no zeal," she said.

This crisis of faith began in 1946, the same year that she began her evangelistic work among the poor in Kolkata, and continued unabated, except for a few weeks in 1958, until her death in 1997. The church assigned a long series of priests and bishops to act as her confessors, trying to help her recover her faith, but all of them ultimately met with failure.

"According to her letters, Mother Teresa died with her doubts. She had even stopped praying, she once said. "

7,565 posted on 09/29/2010 11:47:12 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: aimee5291; Judith Anne
Also, I don’t think some understand or perhaps accept what monastic life is....

Could you show us where Christ prescribes the monastic life as a part of Christian life?

7,566 posted on 09/29/2010 11:52:47 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: stfassisi; Dr. Eckleburg
Dear Sister, Mother Teresa continued to love others resisting her trials of faith.

The question is was it the love of Christ or was it her love? The fact that she never presented Christ to the dying says it was human love not divine love.

God uses even the unsaved to do His pleasure ..

We can look at her works and know they were kind, and appreciate her without making a woman that doubted God a 'saint" and the focus of devotion

7,567 posted on 09/29/2010 12:04:00 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: kosta50; stfassisi
SFA, the Gospels tell us that Jesus prayed. So, was he merely acting? And when he cried out "Why have you forsaken me?", was than an an act as well? Either he had faith or he was acting.

I don't understand, why would He need the supernatural virtue of faith to pray... to speak to His Father? Faith will pass away when we behold the Beatific Vision, will we no longer pray then?

Beyond that, I had a friend who used to be in the IDF who converted to Catholicism in Jerusalem. She once almost offhandedly said, in reference to "why have you forsaken me", "Oh, He was saying tehillim". As if that settled the whole issue... I didn't even know what that meant and every time I thought to ask her she was half the world away.

Oh, and I mentioned that she used to be in the IDF and converted in Jerusalem because she's a she and everything in combination is about the coolest thing ever... what with her having been a Presbyterian from the American South.

Anyhow, I don't fully understand how a Person with two natures and two wills and two intellects functions. I do know that a Divine Person can not have the virtue of Faith because that's like an adult phoning his parents and asking permission to get a drink of water in the middle of the night.

7,568 posted on 09/29/2010 12:09:02 PM PDT by Legatus (Keep calm and carry on)
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To: MarkBsnr

====You guys have tried before and failed miserably. The Trinitarian formula cannot be proven Scripturally. There are the names, but not the formula. The most that can be proven Scripturally is a subordinationalist theology that some of the Reformed’s nuttier allies believe in.====

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/15047a.htm#II


7,569 posted on 09/29/2010 12:10:07 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7

“I and the Father are One. Whoever has seen Me has seen the Father.”

Hmmmm...whom to believe? RnMomof7, an anonymous anti-Catolic poster, or Jesus Christ in His own words?

Decisions, decisions.


7,570 posted on 09/29/2010 12:11:18 PM PDT by Judith Anne (Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death.)
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To: Natural Law; Dr. Eckleburg
"GOD is not the author of confusion..."- 1Corinthians 14:33

Is Jesus God?

Luke 8:10 he said, "To you it has been given to know the secrets of the kingdom of God; but for others they are in parables, so that seeing they may not see, and hearing they may not understand.

7,571 posted on 09/29/2010 12:12:23 PM PDT by OLD REGGIE (I am a Biblical Unitarian?)
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To: RnMomof7

Is Time Magazine (*spit!*) your source?


7,572 posted on 09/29/2010 12:12:32 PM PDT by Judith Anne (Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death.)
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To: RnMomof7
"The accusation came from a catholic that hated reformed doctrine.."

The accusation? There were multiple. However, this does show the duplicity of the anti-Catholic's "four legs good, two legs bad" mentality. Accusations agains Calvin, Reformists, and Protestant Clergy are dismissed out of hand, but any and all accusations against any Catholic are accompanied by a presumption of guilt.

It is a bit flattering that the Catholic Church is always held to a higher standard than Protestant churches by the anti-Catholics. It affirms a subliminal acknowledgment of the superiority of the Catholic Church and its clergy as reflected in Luke 12:48;

"From everyone who has been given much, much will be required; and to whom they entrusted much, of him they will ask all the more."

7,573 posted on 09/29/2010 12:26:18 PM PDT by Natural Law (A lie is a known untruth expressed as truth. A liar is the one who tells it.)
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To: OLD REGGIE
"Is Jesus God?"

Yes, as is God the Father and the Holy Spirit. Each are individual Hypostases within one Ousia.

7,574 posted on 09/29/2010 12:29:22 PM PDT by Natural Law (A lie is a known untruth expressed as truth. A liar is the one who tells it.)
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To: RJR_fan
By their fruits you shall know them.

One commonality I find among the Catholics I now personally and it seems true of the ones I know here is they are indifferent to the eternity of others..

Mother Teresa met the physical needs of the dying but was totally indifferent to their eternity and she is called a 'saint"

7,575 posted on 09/29/2010 12:31:15 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: malkee
Catholics do not believe they would be saved without the shedding of Christ’s blood.

In your thought, what did the blood shed by Jesus do for men?

7,576 posted on 09/29/2010 12:33:06 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: kosta50; Dr. Eckleburg; RnMomof7; stfassisi; MarkBsnr; Judith Anne; D-fendr; 1000 silverlings
Again, it's up to God and you must believe that with God everything is possible and that he is the final arbiter of all things and that it is not our business to speculate where Mother Theresa's soul is. If anything, a true Christian can only say "God have mercy on us sinners," and "Thy will be done."

Agreed. Also, it is not our business to "declare"-"recognize" the Sainthood of any human. God, and only God, knows the answer.
7,577 posted on 09/29/2010 12:34:45 PM PDT by OLD REGGIE (I am a Biblical Unitarian?)
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To: D-fendr; Dr. Eckleburg
Ah, another Viking raid on monasteries.

God made men and women to unite in marriage

Bonus points if you can find: "He that is able to receive it, let him receive it."

I'm confused? You couldn't be suggesting that the celibate Priest should be castrated????

7,578 posted on 09/29/2010 12:44:36 PM PDT by OLD REGGIE (I am a Biblical Unitarian?)
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To: RnMomof7
"Mother Teresa met the physical needs of the dying but was totally indifferent to their eternity and she is called a 'saint" "

MOther Teresa was not indifferent to anyone's eternity. There is far more to the Word of God than is found in the written Scripture and far more means to spread the Word than the spewing of out of contect Scripture. Just because some French shyster reduced God to a manipulable document, devoid of Beatitude does not mean the whole world agrees or acts accordingly.

7,579 posted on 09/29/2010 12:46:15 PM PDT by Natural Law (A lie is a known untruth expressed as truth. A liar is the one who tells it.)
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To: Judith Anne; Dr. Eckleburg
We do our best, knowing that we have been forgiven our sins and that at our death, Christ, not Mary, not saints, not our own good deeds, but Christ alone will bring us to God the Father covered in His perfection, His obedience, His righteousness, His salvation.

Who is "we"?

Would you have an objection to being included amongst the "we"?

7,580 posted on 09/29/2010 12:55:07 PM PDT by OLD REGGIE (I am a Biblical Unitarian?)
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