Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief
The ultimate intention of Catholicism is the restoration of the Holy Roman Empire. That has always been the ambition, at least covertly, but now it is being promoted overtly and openly.
The purpose of this article is only to make that intention clear. It is not a criticism of Catholics or Catholicism (unless you happen to think a Catholic dictatorship is not a good thing).
The most important point is to understand that when a Catholic talks about liberty or freedom, it is not individual liberty that is meant, not the freedom to live one's life as a responsible individual with the freedom to believe as one chooses, not the freedom to pursue happiness, not the freedom to produce and keep what one has produced as their property. What Catholicism means by freedom, is freedom to be a Catholic, in obedience to the dictates of Rome.
The Intentions Made Plain
The following is from the book Revolution and Counter-Revolution:
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"B. Catholic Culture and Civilization
"Therefore, the ideal of the Counter-Revolution is to restore and promote Catholic culture and civilization. This theme would not be sufficiently enunciated if it did not contain a definition of what we understand by Catholic culture and Catholic civilization. We realize that the terms civilization and culture are used in many different senses. Obviously, it is not our intention here to take a position on a question of terminology. We limit ourselves to using these words as relatively precise labels to indicate certain realities. We are more concerned with providing a sound idea of these realities than with debating terminology.
"A soul in the state of grace possesses all virtues to a greater or lesser degree. Illuminated by faith, it has the elements to form the only true vision of the universe.
"The fundamental element of Catholic culture is the vision of the universe elaborated according to the doctrine of the Church. This culture includes not only the learning, that is, the possession of the information needed for such an elaboration, but also the analysis and coordination of this information according to Catholic doctrine. This culture is not restricted to the theological, philosophical, or scientific field, but encompasses the breadth of human knowledge; it is reflected in the arts and implies the affirmation of values that permeate all aspects of life.
"Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church.
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Got that? "Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church." The other name for this is called "totalitarianism," the complete rule of every aspect of life.
This book and WEB sites like that where it is found are spreading like wildfire. These people do not believe the hope of America is the restoration of the liberties the founders sought to guarantee, these people believe the only hope for America is Fatima. Really!
In Their Own Words
The following is from the site, "RealCatholicTV." It is a plain call for a "benevolent dictatorship, a Catholic monarch;" their own words. They even suggest that when the "Lord's Payer," is recited, it is just such a Catholic dictatorship that is being prayed for.
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Two Comments
First, in this country, freedom of speech means that anyone may express any view no matter how much anyone else disagrees with that view, or is offended by it. I totally defend that meaning of freedom of speech.
This is what Catholics believe, and quite frankly, I do not see how any consistent Catholic could disagree with it, though I suspect some may. I have no objection to their promoting those views, because it is what they believe. Quite frankly I am delighted they are expressing them openly. For one thing, it makes it much easier to understand Catholic dialog, and what they mean by the words they use.
Secondly, I think if their views were actually implemented, it would mean the end true freedom, of course, but I do not believe there is any such danger.
You brought it up.
You don’t want to continue it.
Fine by me.
Is Christ God? Did Christ choose you? Was He lying when He said, "Before Abraham was, I am"?
But He didn't choose Mary to be His Mother, before the foundation of the world, that she should be holy and blameless before Him?
Zero times.
Christians are judged according to Christ within them. Read your Bible. Learn the truth.
Does God justify the Godly or the ungodly?
Zero times.
Christians are judged according to Christ within them. Read your Bible. Learn the truth.
Does Christ justify the Godly or the ungodly?
see 7265. I’ve busy and typing quickly.
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see 7265. I’ve busy and typing quickly.
“Would that be God, the Father, or God, the Son or God, the Holy Ghost? How do you know?
Epic? Nay, legendary.
We are dealing with theological hash and not just a couple of heresies.
Clearly Roman Catholics misunderstand the Trinity and the office of each person of that Trinity.
Mary was not pre-existent, altho Catholics now have her in their theology as *the first born of every creature* (Christ’s title) and fused to the HS in the Trinity. As Mary was in David’s line, she certainly figured into the Plan of Salvation as elect.
I “continued” it all day long.
You are the one repeating questions that have already been answered.
It’s an old Jesuit ploy - ask endless questions. Obviously because the answers aren’t important. Just keep up the questions, with no understanding of their conclusion.
Drive-by shotgun this time.
No, just discussing background and reading Mother Teresa's letters, her namesake, the other Teresas, their writings, the Carmelites, remember?
Then you slammed monasticism, as compared with preaching at one point. Seemed to me you didn't show much knowledge of monastics' contribution to the development and spread of Christianity.
So I asked... and out comes the "medieval longing" bit.
How's this fit into the conversation?
AMEN, RnMomof7!
I didn't think protestants could get any more arrogant, but I was wrong
Listen! You can hear all the anti-Catholics come skittering out of the woodwork as if someone had just turned off the lights.
This error does reveal, however, how Rome struggles to put EVERYTHING under the rubric of Mary Mary Mary...
Yes, we agree. You are wrong.
You continued, but not the conversation. You jump off on all manner of things *but* the thread of a conversation. I realize you're busy, but continuing a train of conversation is what I'm trying for here.
Then by your comment it would be just as accurate to say the Holy Ghost or Father chose Mary as saying Jesus chose Mary?
There doesn't seem to be any restraint on RCs stealing God's glory and giving it to a creature.
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