Intended Catholic Dictatorship

Independent Individualist ^ | 8/27/10 | Reginald Firehammer

[Hank Kerchief]

Intended Catholic Dictatorship

The ultimate intention of Catholicism is the restoration of the Holy Roman Empire. That has always been the ambition, at least covertly, but now it is being promoted overtly and openly.

The purpose of this article is only to make that intention clear. It is not a criticism of Catholics or Catholicism (unless you happen to think a Catholic dictatorship is not a good thing).

The most important point is to understand that when a Catholic talks about liberty or freedom, it is not individual liberty that is meant, not the freedom to live one's life as a responsible individual with the freedom to believe as one chooses, not the freedom to pursue happiness, not the freedom to produce and keep what one has produced as their property. What Catholicism means by freedom, is freedom to be a Catholic, in obedience to the dictates of Rome.

The Intentions Made Plain

The following is from the book Revolution and Counter-Revolution:

"B. Catholic Culture and Civilization

"Therefore, the ideal of the Counter-Revolution is to restore and promote Catholic culture and civilization. This theme would not be sufficiently enunciated if it did not contain a definition of what we understand by Catholic culture and Catholic civilization. We realize that the terms civilization and culture are used in many different senses. Obviously, it is not our intention here to take a position on a question of terminology. We limit ourselves to using these words as relatively precise labels to indicate certain realities. We are more concerned with providing a sound idea of these realities than with debating terminology.

"A soul in the state of grace possesses all virtues to a greater or lesser degree. Illuminated by faith, it has the elements to form the only true vision of the universe.

"The fundamental element of Catholic culture is the vision of the universe elaborated according to the doctrine of the Church. This culture includes not only the learning, that is, the possession of the information needed for such an elaboration, but also the analysis and coordination of this information according to Catholic doctrine. This culture is not restricted to the theological, philosophical, or scientific field, but encompasses the breadth of human knowledge; it is reflected in the arts and implies the affirmation of values that permeate all aspects of life.

"Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church.

Got that? "Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church." The other name for this is called "totalitarianism," the complete rule of every aspect of life.

This book and WEB sites like that where it is found are spreading like wildfire. These people do not believe the hope of America is the restoration of the liberties the founders sought to guarantee, these people believe the only hope for America is Fatima. Really!

In Their Own Words

The following is from the site, "RealCatholicTV." It is a plain call for a "benevolent dictatorship, a Catholic monarch;" their own words. They even suggest that when the "Lord's Payer," is recited, it is just such a Catholic dictatorship that is being prayed for.

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Two Comments

First, in this country, freedom of speech means that anyone may express any view no matter how much anyone else disagrees with that view, or is offended by it. I totally defend that meaning of freedom of speech.

This is what Catholics believe, and quite frankly, I do not see how any consistent Catholic could disagree with it, though I suspect some may. I have no objection to their promoting those views, because it is what they believe. Quite frankly I am delighted they are expressing them openly. For one thing, it makes it much easier to understand Catholic dialog, and what they mean by the words they use.

Secondly, I think if their views were actually implemented, it would mean the end true freedom, of course, but I do not believe there is any such danger.

—Reginald Firehammer (06/28/10)

[wagglebee]

But since 1948 and 1967 things are moving faster and faster. sort of on an exponential curve.

The Black Death hit Europe in 1347 and spread across Europe over the next three years. The mortality rate varied by region (it was deadlier in warmer climates), but anywhere from a quarter to two-thirds of the people died depending on where they lived. It was a plague that mankind had never seen before, it was not unusual for a person who was fine when they woke up in the morning to be dead by nightfall. Entire villages simply ceased to exist. And then, just to make things worse, it came back with a vengance ten years later and then kept returning every ten years or so for centuries though it became less deadly (it is believed that there is some genetic immunity to the Plague and this is why the death rates dropped).

So, tell us, what has happened in the past fifty years or so that resembles this?

[marbren]

Maybe I should use the word true instead of real. Our preconceived notions may not be true. So what, Jesus Christ is true. Trust in him not what you think.

[metmom]

I did read it.

[1000 silverlings]

The spiritual world is real and we are spiritual beings. The world we think of as “real” is a world that our human brains struggle to make sense of. Studying quantum physics is an eye opener

[Mad Dawg]

You were criticizing not offering the chalice, right?
That suggested that you thought both species should be offered.

So then the question is how and to what extent is partaking of both kinds necessary. For example, would it be necessary for whom gluten provokes a nasty reaction to partake of the Sacred Body, even though the 'accidents' remain? What EXACTLY would someone who could not safely eat the "accidents" of bread be missing if he only received the Precious Blood.

Good theology involves more than merely mocking those with whom one disagrees. If one triumphantly makes an observation or contemptuously asks a question, there will be interpretations of the observation and answers to the questions.

If the person trumpeting observations and questions does not read the answers or, at any rate respond to them, there's a suggestion of darkening counsel with words without knowledge.

[Dr. Eckleburg]

Is the truth in numbers? If that's the case, the Roman Catholic majority who voted for Obama (54%) would be correct to have handed the Presidency to the Kenyan.

But that Roman Catholic majority was dead wrong. Yet again..

[wmfights]

There are two things at least going on here. A person who at least receives the Sacraments of initiation (Baptism, first Holy Communion and usually Confirmation) can return to the practice of the Faith at any time. Deathbed "reversions" are not uncommon. So in that sense "once Catholic always Catholic" is correct.

Thank you. I know this, or something similar has been stated on prior occasions. I'm surprised there is any controversy about it, or how it might affect numbers.

As for the parish records, generally the parish priest is supposed to do a census annually and clean up the register. The bishop is supposed to inspect the sacramental records when he visits the parish, usually for Confirmations, but I believe each diocese organizes this process on its own.

At best a subjective accounting. One small example is my wife. She has been a Born Again Christian for about 20 years now and still regularly receives mail from her former church. I could be wrong, but I believe it's mail that's sent to members.

Regardless, nobody local wants the numbers inflated and since anything that would come out of Rome concerning how many practicing Catholics there are come from publicly available reports it would be difficult to fudge the numbers.

I would be stunned if there wasn't some "puffing" all the way along the line. One reason being it's human nature to want to make ourselves seem more important (in this case bigger numbers) than we are. Another reason being any huge organization is going to have communication issues at each level. The last reason being the RC's that excommunicate themselves by supporting abortion, or other things, are never dropped from the roles.

FWIW, I don't think it's part of a huge conspiracy.

[1000 silverlings]

I learned about Charon yesterday.. :)

what kind of education did you have? We learned about charon in high school, plus he is depicted in some of the world's greatest art

[marbren]

So, tell us, what has happened in the past fifty years or so that resembles this?

The Bible talks about the death of maybe 4 billion people very soon.

[nanetteclaret]

Isn’t there something in the Bible about not bearing false witness?

Or did Luther take that out, too?

[D-fendr]

Yeah, I’m unlearned, you’re a great scholar.

Got it.

[Dr. Eckleburg]

Most sources say there's one billion RCs. Somehow, even with its dwindling membership and its closed churches and seminaries, Rome has inflated that number by 20%.

lol. Roman math. II + II = X.

[wagglebee]

Numbers for Roman Catholics are all over the map. Google them. Wiki-answers and many others say "about one billion." (What's 200,000 million among friends?)

So, Wikianswers is now a reputable group? Who do THEY get their numbers from?

Wmfights has answered your objections. Rome fudges its membership rolls by including the hundreds of millions who have fled the idolatry of the papacy for Scripture's better promise.

Unless we are to count the Wiki crowd, NOBODY has given me the name of any agency that suggests a different number.

Rome lies.

Then you need to prove it, show us who says the number is wrong.

I'm surprised you question the fact that I, as a wife, know my husband's heart, and he mine. Perhaps you're not known by your wife. That would be a pity. Counseling might help.

Yes, a person such as yourself who claims omniscience can certainly benefit from counseling.

[wmfights]

So, tell us, what has happened in the past fifty years or so that resembles this?

The nation of Israel came back into existence and Jews started returning to it. A huge prophetic event.

[marbren]

Agreed, We exist in 3 dimensions maybe 4. God has unlimited dimensions. No box we can imagine can hold him.

[Natural Law]

" If that's the case, the Roman Catholic majority who voted for Obama (54%) would be correct to have handed the Presidency to the Kenyan."

To quote Truman there are lies, damned lies, and statistics. Since Catholics represent only 22% of the US population the fact is that there were far more Protestant votes cast for Obama than Catholic votes.

[Mad Dawg]

I did read it.

And now you know what the real presence of BOREDOM is!

But I don't get how you could read it and not see that it was largely in response to your statements about "actual" flesh and so on.

The link to the Tertia Pars of the Summa will get you to the correct (if confusing -- at least it confuses moi) terminology.

[D-fendr]

If Jack Van Impe had been broadcasting in the Middle Ages, all kinds of end-times prophecies would have been seen.

[Dr. Eckleburg]

Anyone can google "number of Roman Catholics worldwide" and see for themselves the disparity in numbers.

Learn something.

a person such as yourself who claims omniscience

Would that be termed a "lie" since I have never claimed "omniscience" and you cannot prove your slander true?

[marbren]

What if the USA disappears in the next few weeks or months. Will faith be shaken?