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Intended Catholic Dictatorship
Independent Individualist ^ | 8/27/10 | Reginald Firehammer

Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief

Intended Catholic Dictatorship

The ultimate intention of Catholicism is the restoration of the Holy Roman Empire. That has always been the ambition, at least covertly, but now it is being promoted overtly and openly.

The purpose of this article is only to make that intention clear. It is not a criticism of Catholics or Catholicism (unless you happen to think a Catholic dictatorship is not a good thing).

The most important point is to understand that when a Catholic talks about liberty or freedom, it is not individual liberty that is meant, not the freedom to live one's life as a responsible individual with the freedom to believe as one chooses, not the freedom to pursue happiness, not the freedom to produce and keep what one has produced as their property. What Catholicism means by freedom, is freedom to be a Catholic, in obedience to the dictates of Rome.

The Intentions Made Plain

The following is from the book Revolution and Counter-Revolution:

"B. Catholic Culture and Civilization

"Therefore, the ideal of the Counter-Revolution is to restore and promote Catholic culture and civilization. This theme would not be sufficiently enunciated if it did not contain a definition of what we understand by Catholic culture and Catholic civilization. We realize that the terms civilization and culture are used in many different senses. Obviously, it is not our intention here to take a position on a question of terminology. We limit ourselves to using these words as relatively precise labels to indicate certain realities. We are more concerned with providing a sound idea of these realities than with debating terminology.

"A soul in the state of grace possesses all virtues to a greater or lesser degree. Illuminated by faith, it has the elements to form the only true vision of the universe.

"The fundamental element of Catholic culture is the vision of the universe elaborated according to the doctrine of the Church. This culture includes not only the learning, that is, the possession of the information needed for such an elaboration, but also the analysis and coordination of this information according to Catholic doctrine. This culture is not restricted to the theological, philosophical, or scientific field, but encompasses the breadth of human knowledge; it is reflected in the arts and implies the affirmation of values that permeate all aspects of life.

"Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church.

Got that? "Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church." The other name for this is called "totalitarianism," the complete rule of every aspect of life.

This book and WEB sites like that where it is found are spreading like wildfire. These people do not believe the hope of America is the restoration of the liberties the founders sought to guarantee, these people believe the only hope for America is Fatima. Really!

In Their Own Words

The following is from the site, "RealCatholicTV." It is a plain call for a "benevolent dictatorship, a Catholic monarch;" their own words. They even suggest that when the "Lord's Payer," is recited, it is just such a Catholic dictatorship that is being prayed for.

[View video in original here or on Youtube. Will not show in FR.]

Two Comments

First, in this country, freedom of speech means that anyone may express any view no matter how much anyone else disagrees with that view, or is offended by it. I totally defend that meaning of freedom of speech.

This is what Catholics believe, and quite frankly, I do not see how any consistent Catholic could disagree with it, though I suspect some may. I have no objection to their promoting those views, because it is what they believe. Quite frankly I am delighted they are expressing them openly. For one thing, it makes it much easier to understand Catholic dialog, and what they mean by the words they use.

Secondly, I think if their views were actually implemented, it would mean the end true freedom, of course, but I do not believe there is any such danger.

—Reginald Firehammer (06/28/10)


TOPICS: Activism; Catholic; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
What exactly is the Trinity foundation that says that "Last year The Trinity Foundation published Paul Elliott’s book, Christianity and Neo-Liberalism: The Spiritual Crisis in the Orthodox Presbyterian Church and Beyond. That book examines in detail the false doctrine of salvation now being taught in the Orthodox Presbyterian Church
1,321 posted on 09/05/2010 2:45:38 AM PDT by Cronos (Omnia mutantur, nihil interit. "Allah": Satan's current status)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
The above website says
Thus, the Report continues the conspiracy of silence that has prevailed in the OPC for three decades. It leaves the erroneous impression that the serious doctrinal problems are outside the denomination, not within it. The Report gives false comfort to those who think the OPC is still a bastion of Biblical orthodoxy. On the contrary, the Report, and the 2006 General Assembly’s commendation of it, both maintain the OPC as a safe haven for those who teach error.

1,322 posted on 09/05/2010 2:46:49 AM PDT by Cronos (Omnia mutantur, nihil interit. "Allah": Satan's current status)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
The above website says
Men within the OPC, including at least one member of the Committee itself, teach heresy regarding the Gospel and many other fundamentals of the faith.

1,323 posted on 09/05/2010 2:47:10 AM PDT by Cronos (Omnia mutantur, nihil interit. "Allah": Satan's current status)
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To: Alamo-Girl

A pretzel?

More like a Gordian Knot, imho.

LOL.

Well put.


1,324 posted on 09/05/2010 4:22:08 AM PDT by Quix (C Bosses plans: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

Some are well read.

Few are well thought.


1,325 posted on 09/05/2010 4:23:51 AM PDT by Quix (C Bosses plans: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

That was more than a little disturbing when it surfaced. What dogged determination to plod on.

Too bad some Charismatic RC didn’t facilitate Holy Spirit’s enlivening her toil and faith.

However, she has almost an iconic Marian role in THE SYSTEM . . . I doubt any TRUTH about her will have that much impact any more than THE TRUTH about Mary alters all the heretical, blasphemous, idolatrous hoopla.


1,326 posted on 09/05/2010 4:28:08 AM PDT by Quix (C Bosses plans: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

INDEED.

==

NOW NOW! How dare you question the

Vatican !!!!!TRADITION!!!!! and Station of the White Hanky #2: THE BLACK/WHITE ICON OF DUPLICITY, THE DOUBLE STANDARD DANCE!

Mary is obviously Co-Redemptrix except when it’s more convenient that she isn’t . . . which alternates with when it’s more convenient that she is—the default position, BTW.


1,327 posted on 09/05/2010 4:33:15 AM PDT by Quix (C Bosses plans: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

What about all the Catholics who died in Northern Ireland during the potato famine , the anti-catholic statutes still operative today in the UK, the sordid history of the KKK in this country.
Protestantism’s record in this regard is nothing to brag about. Introspection in commentary produces more objectivity. Yet Jesus, who I believe is God unlike most on this thread , saves.


1,328 posted on 09/05/2010 6:08:06 AM PDT by bronx2 (while Jesus is the Alpha /Omega He has given us rituals which you reject to obtain the graces as to)
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To: Natural Law
Stop making this thread "about" individual Freepers.

Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.

1,329 posted on 09/05/2010 7:03:52 AM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: Quix
Indeed. Thank you for your encouragement, dear brother in Christ!
1,330 posted on 09/05/2010 7:11:49 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Religion Moderator
Please explain why the half a dozen postings about me (NL) in the thread did not warrant a single warning or admonishment but my bringing attention to them did.
1,331 posted on 09/05/2010 8:16:29 AM PDT by Natural Law (Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus)
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To: OLD REGGIE
Unitarians do not believe in the basic Christian ideas of:
1. Christ is God
2. God is ONE - a Trinity of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit

Now if you as a Unitarian want to believe that, so be it, but if you then want to debate further Christian dogma, it's like someone arguing calculus when they do not agree that 1+1 = 2. Namely, it does not help those talking calculus and the topic goes on a nice merry-go-around.

It's like you or me getting on a thread between Mahayana and Hirayana Buddhism when we don't agree with their fundamental concept of rebirth.

If you as a Unitarian want to argue with us on the nature of the Trinity -- that's fair, just as you / I could argue over whether there is such a thing as rebirth with a Buddhist. But if we try to move further into various Buddhist theology, we are wasting everyone's time.

The Unitarian Universalist website states (uua.org):
"Some Unitarian Universalists are nontheists and do not find language about God useful. The faith of other Unitarian Universalists in God may be profound, though among these, too, talk of God may be restrained. Why? The word God is much abused. Far too often, the word seems to refer to a kind of granddaddy in the sky or a super magician. To avoid confusion, many Unitarian Universalists are more apt to speak of "reverence for life" (in the words of Albert Schweitzer, a Unitarian), the spirit of love or truth, the holy, or the gracious. Many also prefer such language because it is inclusive; it is used with integrity by theist and nontheist members. Whatever our theological persuasion, Unitarian Universalists generally agree that the fruits of religious belief matter more than beliefs about religion-even about God. So we usually speak more of the fruits: gratitude for blessings, worthy aspirations, the renewal of hope, and service on behalf of justice."
The Unitarian/ Universalist Association is, because of their own scant doctrinal structure, nearly impossible to offer a defense against. If you ask a UUA member what they believe in, their mere reply will be "I believe in God". The Bible has a reply for such a little belief:
James 2:19-20 "Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble. But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?"
The Bible makes it clear that scant belief in only God ("Yeah, I believe there's a god") is useless in our Father's eternal plan of redemption. The Unitarian/ Universalist Association cannot be called, even by the greatest stretch of the imagination, neither Christian nor a Church

The UUA does not believe the Bible to be the inspired Word of God. The Unitarian Universalist website states (uua.org):
"We do not, however, hold the Bible-or any other account of human experience-to be either an infallible guide or the exclusive source of truth. Much biblical material is mythical or legendary. Not that it should be discarded for that reason! Rather, it should be treasured for what it is. We believe that we should read the Bible as we read other books (or the newspaper) - with imagination and a critical eye."
The Unitarian Universalist believes that Jesus was only a man, born just like all other men. The Unitarian Universalist website states (uua.org):
"Classically, Unitarian Universalist Christians have understood Jesus as a savior because he was a God-filled human being, not a supernatural being. He was, and still is for many UUs, an exemplar, one who has shown the way of redemptive love, in whose spirit anyone may live generously and abundantly. Among us, Jesus' very human life and teaching have been understood as products of, and in line with, the great Jewish tradition of prophets and teachers. He neither broke with that tradition nor superseded it."
The UUA rejects the Biblical concepts of Heaven and Hell, and in this sense they follow the teachings of the ancient Saducees. Since they reject the teachings of Heaven and Hell, they also reject the idea of salvation

The UUA rejects the idea that God is Triune in Being. They reject the idea that God is One in Three Persons, Father, Son, and Spirit.
1,332 posted on 09/05/2010 8:43:28 AM PDT by Cronos (Omnia mutantur, nihil interit. "Allah": Satan's current status)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

The proof that Mother Teresa did not teach Christ is they let her stay in India.. people teaching the gospel find themselves in jail or dead


1,333 posted on 09/05/2010 9:29:23 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: Religion Moderator

When a thread descends into criticisms of Mother Theresa it it time to lock it.


1,334 posted on 09/05/2010 9:37:10 AM PDT by Natural Law (Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus)
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To: Mad Dawg
When you drive from DC to NY do you take I-95 or do you take a car?

Yes.

1,335 posted on 09/05/2010 9:39:20 AM PDT by OLD REGGIE (I am a Biblical Unitarian?)
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To: OLD REGGIE

Yep. Two weeks in Philadelphia.


1,336 posted on 09/05/2010 9:53:09 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: Natural Law; Dr. Eckleburg
"This is why it is dangerous to have Roman Catholics in positions of power."

How true. Those in positions of power in the RCC are all men and those such as Mother Theresa would never be allowed to join the power elite.

1,337 posted on 09/05/2010 9:54:37 AM PDT by OLD REGGIE (I am a Biblical Unitarian?)
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To: RnMomof7

You’re kidding, right?


1,338 posted on 09/05/2010 9:54:47 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; Cronos
We all expect an Inquisition from Rome.

Whoever maintains that wrong is done to heretics and blasphemers in punishing them makes himself an accomplice in their crimes.

1,339 posted on 09/05/2010 10:15:05 AM PDT by Al Hitan
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To: RnMomof7; Natural Law
The proof that Mother Teresa did not teach Christ is they let her stay in India.. people teaching the gospel find themselves in jail or dead

Bitterness can be a powerful force in making a person say such a pitiful thing.

1,340 posted on 09/05/2010 10:19:37 AM PDT by Al Hitan
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