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To: MarkBsnr
The books were put into the Septuagint, which almost the entire Jewish nation world wide used. It was the anti Catholic Council of Jamnia 60 years after Jesus died, was resurrected and Ascended, that decided in reaction to the dreaded Christian cult springing up, that they would remove the Septuagint from consideration and went with the Hebrew OT.

There could have been no "anti Catholic" anything in 60AD. There was no such thing as a Catholic Church.

The so-called Septuagint, there was no single version, was compiled by Hellenist Jews in Koine Greek. It included the Hebrew books and additional material not part of the original Hebrew.

The Council of Jamnia compiled the only valid Scripture. The Hebrew Scripture.

4,704 posted on 07/31/2010 6:49:02 PM PDT by OLD REGGIE (I am a Biblical Unitarian?)
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To: OLD REGGIE; Amityschild; Brad's Gramma; Captain Beyond; Cvengr; DvdMom; firebrand; ...
There could have been no "anti Catholic" anything in 60AD. There was no such thing as a [ROMAN] Catholic Church.

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You know that. Most? Proddys know that. God knows that.

However, so many RC's hereon obviously live on campus at the ALICE IN WONERLAND SCHOOL OF THEOLOGY AND TIME-WARPED HISTORY MANGLING.

And they are simply not equipped to have to deal with such FACTS. First of all, their Daffynitionary doesn't have "facts" in it. So, they can't even begin to understand the term.

And then when the REALITIES start slapping them upside the face, all they can do is go bury their heads in 3' deep layers of white hankys until the terrors ebb away, usually very slowly.

4,718 posted on 07/31/2010 7:09:31 PM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: OLD REGGIE

This post is not an argument, it’s a position statement, except for the info about the LXX.


4,724 posted on 07/31/2010 7:32:49 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: OLD REGGIE; MarkBsnr
Mark: It was the anti Catholic Council of Jamnia 60 years after Jesus died,

Od Reggie: There could have been no "anti Catholic" anything in 60AD. There was no such thing as a Catholic Church.
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The Council of Jamnia compiled the only valid Scripture. The Hebrew Scripture.


1. Jesus died around 30 AD, and the council of Jamnia was in 90 AD, not as you suggest 60 AD
2. In 60 AD and in 90 AD there was The Catholic Church, a Church led by The Apostles and their successors. This Catholic and Apostolic Church is now the various Catholic, Orthodox, Oriental and Assyrian branches of the One Catholic and Apostolic Church
3. If you say that there was no valid Hebrew scripture before Jamnia, then you completely discount all that Jesus says as well as Paul's saying about all scripture being good
4,875 posted on 08/01/2010 3:10:42 AM PDT by Cronos (Omnia mutantur, nihil interit. "Allah": Satan's current status)
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To: OLD REGGIE
The books were put into the Septuagint, which almost the entire Jewish nation world wide used. It was the anti Catholic Council of Jamnia 60 years after Jesus died, was resurrected and Ascended, that decided in reaction to the dreaded Christian cult springing up, that they would remove the Septuagint from consideration and went with the Hebrew OT.

There could have been no "anti Catholic" anything in 60AD. There was no such thing as a Catholic Church.

I never said anything about 60 AD. When Ignatius wrote about the Catholic Church in 107, the implication of the letter was that it was in full use across the entire Church.

The so-called Septuagint, there was no single version, was compiled by Hellenist Jews in Koine Greek. It included the Hebrew books and additional material not part of the original Hebrew.

Interesting. The Dead Sea Scrolls show that the Septuagint is far closer in accuracy than the Masoretic text is. The Scrolls have every book of the OT except Esther; also very interesting. The Septuagint was written mostly in Alexandria by 70 (legend) scholars in Greek so that Jews world wide could read it. Hebrew by that point was dead except as a scholastic language.

The Council of Jamnia compiled the only valid Scripture. The Hebrew Scripture.

Really? I was just reading that there is increasing doubt there was a Council of Jamnia that actually considered canon at all. But the OT used by Christians was the Septuagint - it had to be because most of the late first century Christians spoke Greek and NOT Hebrew. So in order for this to actually come into effect, the Council first had to exist, it had to have authority to address the canon of the OT, it had to make the rulings that removed the books from the canon, it had to have authority over the Christians who had already separated from Judaism by this time, and the ruling had to be retroactive over Christians.

4,998 posted on 08/01/2010 12:28:45 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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