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Testimony of a Former Irish Priest
BereanBeacon.Org ^ | Richard Peter Bennett

Posted on 07/18/2010 6:04:05 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

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To: Lera
"Wow ! Lookie there... they even make it official doctrine showing the similarities between islam and Rome.

The Catholic similarities with Islam stop with both being children of Abraham. The Calvinist similarities with Islam are far deeper. They transcend the mere similarities in written doctrine and bleed over into the daily actions and open hostility toward "dhimmies".

3,761 posted on 07/29/2010 11:57:43 PM PDT by Natural Law (Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus)
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To: small voice in the wilderness
SVITW: THIS part is just garbage. Plain garbage

So you consider scripture that doesn't suit your preformed opinion as garbage? You asked for scripture, and you got it, however, this didn't fit in with some convoluted cult that your pastor teaches, so you reject it, even though it is the Word of God, because the scriptural passages support Christ's Church, which of course, your demonic pastor will abhor

Oh, I will get you an exorcist, don't worry, keep the demons bottled inside until he comes
3,762 posted on 07/30/2010 12:06:11 AM PDT by Cronos (Omnia mutantur, nihil interit. "Allah": Satan's current status)
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To: small voice in the wilderness; MarkBsnr
There are far too many differences on your side for you to claim complete unity in your beliefs.

There are some 30,000 denominations on your side, many of them pitted against one another on doctrine, discipline, etc. The disputes are often very bitter and some of the major arguments have been raging for centuries.

This whole idea that an individual Christian believer has unlimited authority to determine the meaning of Scripture to his own individual satisfaction has produced doctrinal chaos.
3,763 posted on 07/30/2010 12:08:28 AM PDT by Deo volente (God willing, America will survive this Obamination.)
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To: Natural Law; Dr. Eckleburg

The Catholic similarities with Islam stop with both being children of Abraham. The Calvinist similarities with Islam are far deeper. They transcend the mere similarities in written doctrine and bleed over into the daily actions and open hostility toward “dhimmies”.


The infallibility of the Pope has declared you worship the same diety as official doctrine.

http://www.vatican.va/archive/hist_councils/ii_vatican_council/documents/vat-ii_decl_19651028_nostra-aetate_en.html

Either he is mistaken and is not infallible or you do .
These are the dangers of putting your trust in men instead of the WORD.

Click my name to learn a little about islam and who allah really is.


3,764 posted on 07/30/2010 12:10:12 AM PDT by Lera
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To: Natural Law

The Religion Moderator reprimanded your post that you’re defending. Try to follow the rules.


3,765 posted on 07/30/2010 12:11:12 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Deo volente
"Strains the bounds of credulity."

No, it defies the bounds of credulity. I have an almost identical background as you and managed the altar server program at our parish for over 15 years. During that time I scheduled and trained the servers for every ceremony short of an exorcism. That any individual so openly hostile and contemptuous towards Catholics and Catholicism would find him or herself in the wedding party of even one high nuptial Mass is hard to believe. Three is pathological.

3,766 posted on 07/30/2010 12:12:19 AM PDT by Natural Law (Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus)
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To: Iscool
To your post 3273:
Sigh, Iscool, excerpting again out of context -- read the ENTIRE book in context, Romans 15:19-23 gives you more clarity:
19by the power of signs and miracles, through the power of the Spirit. So from Jerusalem all the way around to Illyricum, I have fully proclaimed the gospel of Christ.
20It has always been my ambition to preach the gospel where Christ was not known, so that I would not be building on someone else's foundation.
21Rather, as it is written:
"Those who were not told about him will see,
and those who have not heard will understand."[g]

22This is why I have often been hindered from coming to you.
23But now that there is no more place for me to work in these regions, and since I have been longing for many years to see you,
What does Paul actually say?:

19 --> from Jerusalem to Albania (Illyricum), I have fully proclaimed the gospel of Christ Now, you probably have never heard of Illyricum before, or even Albania, so let me educate you -- it is east of Rome, so from Israel to the land to the east of Italy might make sense to you -- anyway, Paul said that until then he had only travelled in the eastern mediterranean, not to Italy (and Rome is in Italy...)

20 --> Here Paul says that it was always his ambition to preach where the Gospel has not yet been preached

21 --> Here Paul quotes from scripture

22 --> Here Paul explains that because his ambition was
1. to preach in places where the gospel has not yet been preached and
2. he has not travelled to Italy or west of Italy (hence never to Rome),
due to these two reasons he has not been able to come to Rome

23 --> But now he is longing to visit Rome


It is good to actually READ what one posts and READ the Bible -- your example above is a perfect case of why sola scriptura FAILS. With the lack of knowledge on Aramaic and GReek meanings,lack of history, by reading OUT OF CONTEXT and NOT IN ENTIRETY, sola scriptura fails even humanly and by it's egotistical leanings it fails spiritually as the Holy Spirit does not come into the picture for sola scriptura and all your posts are perfect examples of this failure.

3,767 posted on 07/30/2010 12:13:42 AM PDT by Cronos (Omnia mutantur, nihil interit. "Allah": Satan's current status)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
"The Religion Moderator reprimanded your post that you’re defending."

I am not defending a post, I am reiterating that I still don't believe a word you utter.

3,768 posted on 07/30/2010 12:18:25 AM PDT by Natural Law (Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus)
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To: Deo volente
I was an altar boy in the early 1960’s and served at the Traditional Latin Mass, and I never got to serve at a High Mass. We only had the High Mass once a month at our parish, as I recall.

Yet this bitterly anti-Catholic Calvinist from the OPC has a bunch of close relatives who are Catholic, has attended many Masses herself, and was a bridesmaid at three (count ‘em, THREE) Nuptial High Masses?? She also claims to have a better knowledge of the nature and frequency of the Mass readings than the Catholics here who attend every week.

My parents were married in 1951 at a wonderful Catholic parish and they didn't even get a High Mass. It was an exceedingly rare thing.

This is getting more absurd by the minute. I had no idea the simple fact of my participating in three RC weddings would engender so much hostility, anger, resentment and what now looks to be envy on your part.

One of the weddings was the most elaborate, glitzy wedding I've ever attended. The groom's father was in politics. There were seven bridesmaids and seven groomsmen. And if it will make you feel any better, the marriage didn't last. They were divorced five years later (both were Roman Catholic.) And if I told you the reason why they were divorced, you really wouldn't believe me (and I'm not about to say.)

The other two marriages have lasted.

My husband was an altar boy. I'll ask him if he ever served at a high mass.

And I am not "bitterly anti-Catholic."

I am pro-Christianity; pro-Scripture; pro-liberty of conscience; pro-Reformation.

3,769 posted on 07/30/2010 12:18:55 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Lera
"Either he is mistaken and is not infallible or you do."

There is only one God, Muslims imperfectly describe and worship Him, but they cannot change Him.

3,770 posted on 07/30/2010 12:20:46 AM PDT by Natural Law (Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus)
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To: Lera
Most people would be shocked to learn what you have kindly linked us to -- that the Vatican teaches the insanity that Christians and Muslims pray to the same God.

Right there anyone with half a brain and some sense of the past 10 years would have to disagree.

Islam denies the Lordship of Jesus Christ. It is the opposite of true Christianity. Where Christ redeems, Islam destroys.

" Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?" -- 2 Corinthians 6:14

3,771 posted on 07/30/2010 12:26:19 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Natural Law

You don’t know much about islam do you ?

Yes there is only ONE true God but allah is not his name.
The Bibical God of Abraham , Issac and Jacob is not the god the muslims worship.

Again I state either your Pope is infallible and has made a mistake or you do worship the same diety.

Click on my name and watch the videos
They explain a lot about allah and who he is in the Bible.


3,772 posted on 07/30/2010 12:26:43 AM PDT by Lera
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To: Iscool
to #3256
Iscool: Sorry, but he was not...Peter spoke in his native tongue and the understanding was perceived in all of the foreign languages present...

From the Holy Bible: [4] And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and they began to speak with divers tongues, according as the Holy Ghost gave them to speak. [5] Now there were dwelling at Jerusalem, Jews, devout men, out of every nation under heaven.

Jews also, and proselytes, Cretes, and Arabians: we have heard them speak in our own tongues the wonderful works of God


Iscool -- do understand, your interpretations are not the word of God. There is one Word of God and that was/is Christ. By making your errors (like using English to explain GReek/Aramaic grammar), by misquoting the Bible, these are not your fault, but the fault of ego, of false self trying to interpret the Bible with your mind instead of letting God do this for you.

In the Catholic Church you incorrectly may assume that the pope makes new edicts each day, but that is incorrect, in The Church we come and learn the scripture, about God, as a COMMUNITY, a community stretching back 2000 years, with brothers and sisters stretchign back in time.
3,773 posted on 07/30/2010 12:28:52 AM PDT by Cronos (Omnia mutantur, nihil interit. "Allah": Satan's current status)
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To: Natural Law; Lera; Quix; metmom; small voice in the wilderness; count-your-change; ...
There is only one God, Muslims imperfectly describe and worship Him

Is the God of Islam the same God as the God of Christianity? Is the problem merely one of clouded perception?

How about Wiccans? They see "God" all around them. Do they "imperfectly describe and worship" God, too?

3,774 posted on 07/30/2010 12:30:15 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Iscool; Mad Dawg
Ya got anything in scripture that talks about the USA or Russia or Japan or India?

Ya got anything in scripture that talks about the Visigoths conquering spain? Ya got anything in scripture about Trojan conquering Iraq in the 1 century AD?
3,775 posted on 07/30/2010 12:31:45 AM PDT by Cronos (Omnia mutantur, nihil interit. "Allah": Satan's current status)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; MarkBsnr; wagglebee; Natural Law; NYer
None of those titles, etc. are giving Divine worship to Mary. None of them.

It's called “hyperdulia”. Look it up. Read a good Catholic book about Mary and our devotion to her, and you'll learn that we don't worship her. Far from it. She leads us to her Son, whom we do worship.

This has been discussed ad infinitum on this forum, in countless threads, and you (and others) just keep repeating the same tired, old objections in the vain hope that something will stick. Well, it won't.

3,776 posted on 07/30/2010 12:33:32 AM PDT by Deo volente (God willing, America will survive this Obamination.)
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To: Natural Law
That any individual so openly hostile and contemptuous towards Catholics and Catholicism would find him or herself in the wedding party of even one high nuptial Mass is hard to believe. Three is pathological.

ROTFLOL! That is priceless.

I had no idea I had participated in such an extraordinary event where mere mortals such as Protestants were even permitted through the doors of the church, let alone up at the altar next to the bride.

But it is quite satisfying to know that something I've done three times is so rare in your life.

Just lucky, I guess.

3,777 posted on 07/30/2010 12:35:47 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: OLD REGGIE; metmom; Deo volente; small voice in the wilderness
You're comparing google to the Bible?

As Peter is mentioned 155 do read scripture and see that he is mentined at quite important times. In contrast check for St. Thomas. What does this suggest? It means the same as when you check on how many times Joseph is referred to as compared to say Reuben. And, in the end, what kind of leadership did Joseph have over his brothers? More a first among equals, which is Peter's position among the disciples and is the Patriarch of Rome's position among the other Patriarchs and bishops.
3,778 posted on 07/30/2010 12:37:59 AM PDT by Cronos (Omnia mutantur, nihil interit. "Allah": Satan's current status)
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To: Deo volente
It's called “hyperdulia”. Look it up.

It's called "blasphemy."

Look it up.

3,779 posted on 07/30/2010 12:38:25 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Invincibly Ignorant

oh, so you aren’t Calvinist? not even a Calvinist Baptist?


3,780 posted on 07/30/2010 12:40:46 AM PDT by Cronos (Omnia mutantur, nihil interit. "Allah": Satan's current status)
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