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Posted on 04/18/2010 9:49:35 PM PDT by Judith Anne
I seriously wonder about some FReepers, sometimes. Any other person accused of a crime would be defended by every FReeper as being innocent until proven guilty by a court of law. I've seen whole threads written by men who have been accused of child abuse by ex-wives out to deny them their visitation rights or to wrest more money out of them. These men are rightly indignant, and furious about the unjust accusations that cannot be proven but are never withdrawn.
Yet where are those FReepers when a PRIEST is accused? Where is the presumption of innocence? Suddenly, every accusation becomes a verdict, and not only the accused but his entire organization and all its adherents are held responsible.
I can only wonder what some of these so-called conservatives (who so faithfully defend the Constitution) would do, if THEY were the ones accused! It is a nightmare for any man -- all of you know how even the accusation stains the man forever, even if it is proven false!
Not only that, many here assert that the problems of 30, 40 and even 50 years ago must be tried in the media TODAY!
Remember the Duke rape case? There are more similarities than differences here. The priests are accused, nifonged, and instead of being defended, they are vilified!
What other man of you could stand under the weight of such an accusation trumpeted by the press, and come out whole? None! And such accusations made, LONG after the statute of limitations has passed, sometimes even after the accused is dead and buried for YEARS -- are YOU one of those who automatically, reflexively, spitefully, and gleefully act as judge, jury, and executioner?
Women! What if it were YOUR HUSBAND, YOUR BROTHER, YOUR FATHER, YOUR UNCLE, YOUR SON who was accused? Wouldn't you want the best defense possible? Wouldn't YOU believe in their innocence? Wouldn't YOU help protect your loved ones as much as possible? And yet, YOU JUDGE THE CHURCH FOR DOING WHAT YOU WOULD DO?
Shame! Vast shame! On all who have sinned against the innocent!
Thanks tons for your humblingly wonderful kind reply.
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You're really on a roll, Quix.
I’m curious.
What does that straw dog do for y’all?
It’s an anacronistic absurdity in the communications exchange.
It’s akin to saying the sun is not up at midnight.
You know good and well that Prottys mean that the person has died to this time/space dimension—not eternally dead-cease-to-exist. You KNOW that. We KNOW that. What’s with this absurdity?
Incredible.
Somewhat familiar with Hus.
He was not a true Moravian, was he?
However, God does not forgive all sin. He does not forgive the sins of the reprobate. If He did, the reprobate would be forgiven and he would end up in heaven.
We do not know who is saved and who is not, therefore we forgive all men. But God requires a repentant heart. To those who are His, He gives this repentant heart, made sorrowful in the knowledge of the depths of its own sin. To those who are not His, He does not "grant repentance unto life."
ABSOLUTELY THOROUGHLY BIBLICAL AND CORRECT.
VENGEANCE IS GOD’S EXCLUSIVE TURF AND HE IS FIERCELY INSISTENT ON IT.
Taking it into our own hands is a CERTAIN ROUTE TO SERIOUS PERSONAL TROUBLES THEREFROM.
Many folks do not realize that many troubles they have experienced in relationships and life are because they opened the door to satan’s troubles by that one violation of THE MANUAL.
Once—when I offered the same quote on another thread. That was some time ago.
She thanked me for remembering it.
I always enjoyed reading her posts. She certainly was a “wordsmith”—a gift that I always admire and enjoy.
They know good and well what you meant.
They are being absurd or obtuse or both—evidently for sheer unwarranted, useless, mystifying cussedness.
Try not to post about other people, Mark, and stick to the discussion about beliefs, practices and the various superstitions of Rome.
Amen.
I have often found it useful . . . and many counseling clients have found it useful to pray something along the following lines . . .
Lord, I CHOOSE FORGIVE ___________ FOR ________________. PLEASE, LORD, MAKE IT REAL IN MY EMOTIONS, HEART, MIND, SPIRIT AS FULLY AS POSSIBLE AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.
I take the Sword of The Spirit and cut them off from any of my judgments, resentments etc. I repent of all such feelings and attitudes. I release them fully to your care and discipline as you see fit, Lord. I wish for them a full Salvation, redemptive relationship with you, Lord.
I ask you to help them learn whatever you want them to learn out of all this in your ways and your timing.
Help me Lord, to see them as you see them. Help me to release them fully to you and help me to refuse to 'go there' any more. Help me to stop dwelling on it in my mind another microsecond. Help me to focus instead on all your forgiveness, Love and mercies to me, Lord.
In Jesus' Name.
And if the enemy tempts me with an unforgiving thought or feeling again . . .
NO! AWAY FROM ME, IN JESUS' NAME. I have forgiven _____ fully and will not take up the offense again. I bless them in Jesus' Name for the fullest relationship with God possible for them. The more you harrass me with any such memories, the more I will bless them in Jesus' Name.
I want my sins buried in the sea of forgetfulness and as far from me as the east most galactic cluster is from the west most galactic cluster. So I forgive them the same extent, in Jesus' Name. I hold nothing further against them at all, ever.
Lord, please heal me of any memory or other emotional gritch related to all this, in Jesus' Name.
I forgive them fully. That settles my half with God. Amen.
INDEED.
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INDEED.
No one can force you to feel anything . . . unless you give them that power. If you realize you have, take that power back. Cut the wires you installed between them and your emotional controls.
Yall must have a whole Siberian forest full of those straw dogs.
ABSOLUTELY INDEED:
What it seems to get down to, whether people verbalize it or not, is that if we try to get even ourselves it indicates that we don’t trust God enough to do what He said when He said, *Vengeance is mine, I will repay*.
We aren’t trusting God to execute actual true justice instead of what WE think justice should be, or what we want justice to be, for the crime committed against us.
Interesting. I didn’t know that. My Great Grandmother was Cherokee.
Thanks for your kind words.
Is the failed high school student council member with no life, no accomplishments and no esteem lecturing others on what or what not to do?
and stick to the discussion about beliefs, practices and the various superstitions of Rome.
I don't know about any beliefs, practices or superstitions of Rome. Therefore I will stick with what I know - Christianity. I understand that there is something called Calvinism out there, which is nonChristian and has attempted to take over Christianity but is failing on a monumental scale as belief in Calvinism is asymptotically approaching zero. Are you associated with that pagan cult? I understand that Calvinist congregations are closing their doors as people find out that they are not Christian.
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