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To: Godzilla; Edward Watson
However, to rave about an impending “genocidal” pogrom against mormons is certifiable nutz

Yes, and it was hateful and disturbing to see Watson's verbal assault directed toward you earlier.

In my opinion, people whose worldview has been warped in a way that endows them with a combination of moral and intellectual supremacy (Brahmin cast Indians for example) are prone to these sorts of outbursts.

All of the entitlement of that sort of internal grandiocity going unrequited must be quite the load to bare...

S-N-A-P

413 posted on 03/14/2010 8:12:34 PM PDT by delacoert
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To: delacoert

SNAP indeed.


438 posted on 03/15/2010 8:12:52 AM PDT by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: delacoert; Godzilla

BYU devotional, Elder Glenn L. Pace: The divine nature and destiny of women
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“an impending “genocidal” pogrom against mormons”

Maybe a fatwa by the morg against Glenn Pace and the editors of the new BYU devotional ???

To put women up equal with mormon males who are “divine” due to their “god-in-embryo” status has to be a death penalty crime...

On Sept. 21, 1856, President Brigham Young, the 2nd prophet of the church, publicly proclaimed that certain sins could only be atoned for by the shedding of the sinner’s own blood:

“There are sins that men commit for which they cannot receive forgiveness... and if they had their eyes open to their true condition, they would be perfectly willing to have their blood spilt upon the ground, that the smoke thereof might ascend to heaven as an offering for their sins; and the smoking incense would atone for their sins, whereas, if such is not the case, they will stick to them and remain upon them in the spirit world.

“I know, when you hear my brethren telling about cutting people off from the earth, that you consider it is strong doctrine, but it is to save them, not to destroy them.... I know there are transgressors, who if they knew themselves, and the only condition upon which they can obtain forgiveness, would beg of their brethren to shed their blood, that the smoke thereof might ascend to God as an offering to appease the wrath that is kindled against them, and that the law might have its course. I will say further; I have had men come to me and offer their lives to atone for their sins.

“It is true that the blood of the Son of God was shed for sins... yet men can commit sins which it can never remit... There are sins that can be atoned for by an offering upon an altar, as in ancient days, and there are sins that the blood of a lamb, or a calf, or of turtle doves, cannot remit, but they must be atoned for by the blood of the man.... You have been taught that doctrine, but you do not understand it.” (Sermon by Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, vol. 4, p. 53-54; also published in the Mormon Church’s Deseret News, Oct. 1 1856, p. 235)

President Brigham Young said that if the Mormons really loved their neighbors they would be willing to kill them to save their souls:

“Now take a person in this congregation... and suppose that... he has committed a sin that he knows will deprive him of that exaltation which he desires, and that he cannot attain to it without the shedding of blood, and also knows that by having his blood shed he will atone for that sin, and be saved and exalted with the Gods, is there a man or woman in this house but what would say ‘shed my blood that I may be saved...’

“All mankind love themselves, and let these principles be known by an individual, and he would be glad to have his blood shed. That would be loving themselves, even unto an eternal exaltation. Will you love your brothers and sisters likewise, when they have committed a sin that cannot be atoned for without the shedding of their blood? Will you love that man or woman well enough to shed their blood?...

“I could refer you to plenty of instances where men have been righteously slain, in order to atone for their sins.... I have known a great many men who left this Church for whom there is no chance whatever for exaltation, but if their blood had been spilled, it would have been better for them...

“This is loving our neighbor as ourselves; If he needs help, help him; and if he wants salvation and it is necessary to spill his blood on the earth in order that he may be saved, spill it... That is the way to love mankind.” (Deseret News, Feb. 18, 1857; also reprinted in Journal of Discourses, vol. 4, p. 219-20)


442 posted on 03/15/2010 3:02:01 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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