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To: Godzilla

You know, Godzilla, you really need to stop this distortion. I’ve repeatedly addressed your arguments. Claiming I’ve avoided them is dishonest. I know, I know, the usual players here will side with you but the posting history shows otherwise.

YOU, not me, distorted Mormonism’s view on women. YOU, not me, ignores points. Did you address my pointing out the obvious that you’re confusing authority with superiority? No you didn’t.

I’ve spent hours and hours of my extremely valuable time replying to you and the other anti-Mormons on this forum this past week. I really have better things to do than engage in religious debates - I discontinued writing Mormon apologetics for the precise reason that I simply do NOT care any more. I get dragged in on this forum because I simply cannot tolerate the constant lying and misrepresentation you and the others do against my faith. I know such demonization is the first step towards justification of genocide and if not confronted, bad things will eventually happen all over again just because of religious intolerance.

So now, using the “IF” qualifier is invalid, just because your feelings were hurt? Baloney. Reading into my jab to infer it was a condemnation of your “alleged” military service? How did that happen?

Also, why are you frothing at the mouth? You constantly engage in belittling me and my fellow Mormons, but when your credibility is questioned; oh! How dare he!

Come to think of it, are you really a military veteran or just one of those phonies who were against the war that were paraded before the media? After all, you’re expecting me and everyone else to believe you’re a vet. Well, how would we know you’re telling the truth? Anyone can claim to be anything here.

It really is quite simple. STOP LYING and MISREPRESENTING my faith. I do not do it to your faith; don’t do it to mine.

My interests are elsewhere. So take your alleged righteous indignation, pretend your red herring gives you a great moral victory, and get on with your life.

Lastly, I know my writing style 12 years ago was atrocious - I make no apologies for whatever I wrote in my 20s. Bye boyo.


288 posted on 03/14/2010 4:56:18 PM PDT by Edward Watson
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To: Edward Watson; ejonesie22; Godzilla

WOW, the more you talk the more I’m convinced you are an alter ego of another FReeper and you just keep on a shoveling that hole deeper and deeper...just the way he does/did....I hope the powers that be investigate this.


291 posted on 03/14/2010 5:03:21 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 ("The Economy Is So Bad, Even 'Rosy Scenario' Lost Her Job"-Jim Geraghty)
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To: Edward Watson

“I’ve spent hours and hours of my extremely valuable time replying to you and the other anti-Mormons on this forum this past week.”

I’m sorry. I didn’t realize just how valuable your time is Edward - you know, more than anyone elses’ here.

Maybe you could post a PayPal link where we could pay you to reply to our posts? That might defray some of your out of pocket time costs, eh?


292 posted on 03/14/2010 5:05:07 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: Edward Watson

“Come to think of it, are you really a military veteran or just one of those phonies who were against the war that were paraded before the media? “

No, no disparagement of Godzilla’s military service in your posts at all!

Edward, perhaps you think too highly of yourself?


293 posted on 03/14/2010 5:06:14 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: Edward Watson; Jim Robinson
You know, Godzilla, you really need to stop this distortion. I’ve repeatedly addressed your arguments. Claiming I’ve avoided them is dishonest. I know, I know, the usual players here will side with you but the posting history shows otherwise.

Hardly eddie - only in your mind.

YOU, not me, distorted Mormonism’s view on women. YOU, not me, ignores points. Did you address my pointing out the obvious that you’re confusing authority with superiority? No you didn’t.

I presented FACTUAL teachings from YOUR APOSTLES eddie on the secondary status given lds women. Your gloss on authority and superiority is just that - a gloss. It is factual (and you agreed) that mormonism isn't necessarily good for mormon women - highlighted by Utah having the highest prozac rate and the equally high rate of lds women abuse of those drugs.

I know such demonization is the first step towards justification of genocide and if not confronted, bad things will eventually happen all over again just because of religious intolerance.

OMG - THE WE ARE OUT TO KILL ALL MORMONS defense. Petty and parnoid eddie. My military service was spent to protect your sorry keester from that very thing happening - a military career you disrespected.

Also, why are you frothing at the mouth? You constantly engage in belittling me and my fellow Mormons, but when your credibility is questioned; oh! How dare he!

Like every other veteran, I put my self on the line - real death, not the paranoid genocide you waffle about. Secondly, it just goes to show how out of touch you are with the military.

Come to think of it, are you really a military veteran or just one of those phonies who were against the war that were paraded before the media? After all, you’re expecting me and everyone else to believe you’re a vet. Well, how would we know you’re telling the truth? Anyone can claim to be anything here.

Yes, thank you again with an additional personal challenge to my veterans status.

It really is quite simple. STOP LYING and MISREPRESENTING my faith. I do not do it to your faith; don’t do it to mine

As of yet - you've failed to prove a single allegation of this. And as long as mormons claim to be Christians - I, as well as others will refute every claim.

I discontinued writing Mormon apologetics for the precise reason that I simply do NOT care any more.

Don't let the door hit ya on the rear on your way out.

304 posted on 03/14/2010 5:16:52 PM PDT by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: Edward Watson

STOP LYING and MISREPRESENTING my faith
______________________________________________

Edddie Eddie Eddie

You were the one who lied and misrepresented how women are treated in mormonism...

Not us...

In mormonism women are treated as second class citizens at best...

as sex objects and slaves to be used and abused by the “worthy” dirty old men of the “prisethood”

Ya wants some truth ???

Ya cant handle the truth...

Mormonism is not Christianity...


306 posted on 03/14/2010 5:17:45 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Edward Watson; Godzilla

I get dragged in on this forum because I simply cannot tolerate the constant lying and misrepresentation you and the others do against my faith.

- - - - - - - - - -
LOL. It is called TELLING THE TRUTH. Something the LDS spin machine fails to do.


315 posted on 03/14/2010 5:27:33 PM PDT by reaganaut (Don't mind me, I did a little to much LDS in the 80's)
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To: Edward Watson; Godzilla

Whoa, whoa, buddy. Distortion on women?

Mormons do hold women in subjection to men and even other men. For you to assert otherwise is outright conscious ignorance or factually distorting the truth with sins of omission and outright lies.

Just two quick points:

Women may not enter the Priesthood. Why?

Women may not enter into plural marriages here on earth but, may be taken by as many men who desire them in the celestial kingdom. Why?(sounds like they can be passed around like so much chattel and cattle)

Are women inferior in the physical realm and the spiritual realm? Why?

How is that a woman cannot enter the celestial kingdom unless or until her earthly husband calls her secret name?


336 posted on 03/14/2010 5:53:00 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Edward Watson; Godzilla
OH MY GOD!

Have you no SHAME sir!(rhetorical question)

Forget the retarded cat, the common alley cat has higher integrity and moral standards than you can muster.

I know not whether to call you a fool or scallywag.

I certainly am past taking anything you say with any serious hope on integrity or honesty in their construct and argument.

The fact that you are LDS is certain both from your actions and your postings.

344 posted on 03/14/2010 5:58:47 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (Palin bashers on freerepublic, like a fart in Church...)
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To: Edward Watson
Did you address my pointing out the obvious that you’re confusing authority with superiority?

To just WHAT should he respond?

You merely CLAIMED that he was confusing the two - you NEVER provided any PROOF of it; other than your own imaginings.

400 posted on 03/14/2010 7:57:06 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Edward Watson
My interests are elsewhere.

Then WHY are you in this thread?

401 posted on 03/14/2010 7:57:47 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Edward Watson
Bye boyo.

Translation:

I win;

You lose...

PPPBBBTTT!

402 posted on 03/14/2010 7:58:35 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Edward Watson
Do not make this thread "about" individual Freepers. That is a form of "making it personal."

Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.

425 posted on 03/14/2010 9:04:11 PM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: Edward Watson
Free advice...Watson.

Spend more time with your family. Period.

Your kids need a dad there...and your wife needs a husband at home. Not at the office.....

Good Luck

435 posted on 03/15/2010 5:05:01 AM PDT by Osage Orange (A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity. - Sigmund Freud)
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