[Iscool]

10-4. Certainly.

However "imputing" or "calling" (λογιζομαι note the similarity to λογος under the family of λεγω) the desert wet without some resulting change in the desert (whether from rain or from something else) seems problematic.

So it's your contention that there is no fruit of the Spirit i those who accept that their righteousness was inputed from God, and sin was not inputed??? I think not...

But I'm still curious to your thoughts on where the rain came from to get your desert wet since it was not inputed from God...

[Mad Dawg]

I think you got off on the wrong foot about what I am saying. In the desert analogy, taken you may note from the Bible, I was saying MERE Imputation ALONE was inadequate to explain, if you want it this way, the moisture of the desert. There had to be some REAL moisture.

What I'm going after here is the snow-covered dunghill analogy. I think if God calls you righteous then there is some righteousness being bestowed, not just a changing of which column one is listed under.