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To: UriÂ’el-2012; NYer; narses; Petronski; Mad Dawg
I see, your theory is that St. Paul wants people to pray that Onesiphorus be granted the mercy to find Paul, even though this event happened in the past and Onesiphorus is now dead.

The Deutero-Canonical books were rejected by all because they were not written by prophets nor cited.

Then why were they contained in the original KJV.

As an aside, NONE of the proofs that I have given for Purgatory on this thread have been from any Deutero-Canonical books.

403 posted on 10/26/2009 10:49:10 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee
I see, your theory is that St. Paul wants people to pray that Onesiphorus be granted the mercy to find Paul, even though this event happened in the past and Onesiphorus is now dead.

U-2012> The Deutero-Canonical books were rejected by all because they were not written by prophets nor cited.

Then why were they contained in the original KJV.

As an aside, NONE of the proofs that I have given for Purgatory on this thread have been from any Deutero-Canonical books.

A clear reading of the test is Paul is hoping
that YHvH would have granted salvation to Onesiphorus
on the day they had met in Rome when he was alive.

The three proof texts offered were Eisegesis not Exegesis

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
405 posted on 10/26/2009 11:02:21 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: wagglebee; UriÂ’el-2012

Why do you assume Onesiphorus was dead?


427 posted on 10/26/2009 8:08:36 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (I loathe the ground he slithers on!)
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To: wagglebee; Petronski
The Deutero-Canonical books were rejected by all because they were not written by prophets nor cited.

Uriel writes from the New-Age Messianic Judaic / Kabbalah point of view, not the Protestant point of view. As a matter of fact he disagrees with mainstream Protestants since they are part of the same mistakes perpetuated by Pope Constantine, the Pontifex Max who created The Church. Uriel's point of view is that he/she is against this. What he is FOR, or which group he belongs to, is a mystery.
429 posted on 10/27/2009 3:32:26 AM PDT by Cronos (Nuke Mecca NOW!!!)
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To: wagglebee
The Anlgican Articles of Religion (The US 1801 version, but that late date doesn't touch what I'm about to write) say in Article VI "Of the Sufficiency of the Holy Scriptures for Salvation."
[After listing the Protestant OT] And the other Books (as Hierome saith) the Church doth read for example of life and instruction of manners; but yet doth it no apply them to establish any doctrine; ...

435 posted on 10/27/2009 7:07:41 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin: pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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