[Dr. Eckleburg]

Seems pretty clear to me. To concoct all this folly about “Mary is on the cross with Christ helping Christ to redeem His sheep” should be so anathema to a Christian that they flee from it.

[wagglebee]

You and I have debated this ad nauseam and I can think of no reason to go through it again. You think I am wrong, I thing you are wrong and I doubt that ANYTHING either of us says will change the mind of the other.

Nevertheless, our differing beliefs about the Blessed Virgin Mary have NOTHING to do with this thread.

I believe it is possible that the Shroud of Turin is the burial shroud of our Lord, you do not and that is fine. NOBODY has ever suggested that the Shroud is an article of faith.

It is beyond dispute that Jesus Christ was buried in a shroud, it is also beyond dispute that He had the Power to impose His Image on the shroud if that was His Will.

The argument against the Shroud is that it is a medieval forgery, my main question to that is, if medieval artists had the ability to create photo-quality images on a piece of cloth WHERE are the other examples of this talent?

[wagglebee]

To concoct all this folly about “Mary is on the cross with Christ helping Christ to redeem His sheep” should be so anathema to a Christian that they flee from it.

For the record, that WOULD be an anathema. Who told you such nonsense? It certainly didn't come from the Catholic Church.

[Petronski]

Seems pretty clear to me. To concoct all this folly about “Mary is on the cross with Christ helping Christ to redeem His sheep” should be so anathema to a Christian that they flee from it.

So that quote is in fact NOT a quote, right?