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To: jhoge
"I had decided that the concept of God is degrading to men. Since they say that God is perfect, man can never be that perfect, then man is low and imperfect and there is something above him – which is wrong."

Sad. Close, but pride got her.

God is perfect, got that right. Man is low and imperfect and fallen. And there's nothing we can do about it. But there's a remedy.

Are atheism and conservatism opposed forces?

I'd say not necessarily. Orthogonal, no necessary relation. Nor is Christianity necessarily allied with conservatism.

My Christianity informs my politics. I've tried to nuance it in a way that would likely confuse or piss off a lot my dear conservative evangelical co-religionists. See my FR personal page for details.

16 posted on 06/27/2009 8:21:29 PM PDT by Lee N. Field (2)How many things are necessary for thee to know,..? the first, how great my sins and miseries are;)
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To: Lee N. Field
"I had decided that the concept of God is degrading to men. Since they say that God is perfect, man can never be that perfect, then man is low and imperfect and there is something above him – which is wrong."

Sad. Close, but pride got her.

I just had an odd thought: Ayn Rand as a fearsome and lifelong "cage stage" Calvinist. That would be an interesting alternate history...

24 posted on 06/27/2009 8:25:50 PM PDT by Lee N. Field (2)How many things are necessary for thee to know,..? the first, how great my sins and miseries are;)
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To: Lee N. Field

The KKK used religion to justify their abhorrent actions. Where did they get their sense of right and wrong?

Christian liberals opposed them. I don’t see religion helping. I see good men and women fighting evil men and women. Atheists and Theists are to be found on both sides.


33 posted on 06/27/2009 8:32:37 PM PDT by donmeaker (Invicto)
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