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What is holding the Antichrist back if not for the Church?
Vanity | Feb 16th, 2009 | TARAP

Posted on 02/16/2009 1:09:50 PM PST by TaraP

I know we have done quite a bit of specualtion here on who the Antichrist might be, however are we as *Believers* suppose to know who he is?

Isn't this what the Rapture of the Church all about.

We we know that the rapture must precede the tribulation, we know that the rapture is very near. You see, the antichrist cannot be revealed until the force holding him back is removed from the earth. After the church is removed from the earth, the antichrist will be able to begin his reign of terror.

2 Thess 2:7-8, For the secret power of lawlessness is already at work; but the one who now holds it back will continue to do so till he is taken out of the way. And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will overthrow with the breath of his mouth and destroy with the splendor of his coming.

After the letters to the seven churches, John is given the call to "come up hither." This would signify the rapture--the church being removed from the earth. Is this why the church is not mentioned again in the Book of Revelation?

Lastly- Is the next seal to be opened the 6th Seal? The Rapture of the Church and the Great Quake that will block out the Sun and turn the moon blood red.

Thoughts?


TOPICS: General Discusssion; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: antichrist; endtimes; prophecy; rapture
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To: chuck_the_tv_out
Yep...so much of our culture comes from pure bologna, eh?

Got your number, Chuck!

81 posted on 02/16/2009 4:20:57 PM PST by SonOfDarkSkies
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To: angkor

ARE YOU AWARE that this is FR’s . . .

drum roll . . .

RELIGION FORUM? One of the most active parts of FR?

ARE YOU AWARE that, in part, because the secular humanists, communists, socialists, globalist Oligarchy has squeezed Christianity out of public life in a list of ways, JimRob is determined it will not be squeezed out of FR?

If you unwittingly ended up on a religion forum thread, you can reset your settings EVERY TIME YOU REBOOT OR LOGIN . . . for NEWS ACTIVISM only, say.

ALL FORUM listings include RELIGION FORUM threads.


82 posted on 02/16/2009 4:21:51 PM PST by Quix (POL BOSSES say fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: texmexis best

One of the first places he may publically do that is to make a peace treaty with Israel for 7 years AS HEAD OF the NWO OLIGARCHY’S GLOBAL GOVERNMENT.

Then we would know and THE GREAT TRIBULATION WOULD CERTAINLY BE OFF AND RUNNING.


83 posted on 02/16/2009 4:23:15 PM PST by Quix (POL BOSSES say fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: chuck_the_tv_out

Hmmmmm . . . One would have thought that authentic Conservative alertness would stretch back that far.


84 posted on 02/16/2009 4:23:57 PM PST by Quix (POL BOSSES say fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: angkor

I suppose you are also unaware of the great strides that the implantable computer chip/MARK OF THE BEAST ID has made toward being required of every human and kept animal on the planet?


85 posted on 02/16/2009 4:25:05 PM PST by Quix (POL BOSSES say fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: TaraP
What did the devil offer Christ if He would bend a knee to him? You think that we are not going to get the same offer?

Might be wise to have plan B peradventure you are still here when the deceiver gets tossed down here among us.

86 posted on 02/16/2009 4:26:23 PM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: TaraP
Oh and Christ said for the ‘elects’ sake TIME would be shortened NOT the events but on the scale of a woman in labor.
87 posted on 02/16/2009 4:28:16 PM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: jude24; TaraP

Revelation 13: 16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: 17And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
(This has not occurred yet)

Revelation 19
20And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone. 21And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh. (This has not occurred yet)

2 Thess 2:
8And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:

9Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,

10And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

11And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

12That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

(The Lord has not destroyed this person with the brightness of His coming yet, but will in the future.)

As to your passages in 1 John, they merely indicate that there are many antiChrists, but does not negate the fact that there is a singular antiChrist. The beast of Revelation 13 is not generic. He is a specific person who does a specific task. The little horn of Daniel is the same person. Take Scripture all together, not in one small pocket. The Bible is FULL of information about THE Antichrist if you want to look for it. And, I believe God intended for us to look for it else He wouldn’t have put it in the book.


88 posted on 02/16/2009 4:30:13 PM PST by Blogger (Christians- Remember Nineveh.)
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To: jla

With all due respect, there aren’t that many FR articles that include the word “antichrist” in the headline.

Nor do I have any delusions of being “site editor”. I’m just another Freeper.


89 posted on 02/16/2009 4:31:05 PM PST by angkor
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To: Quix

Could you yell louder please?


90 posted on 02/16/2009 4:32:43 PM PST by angkor
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To: Quix

I think discussions of “the antichrist” on FR are whacky, and make conservatism as a whole look whacky.


91 posted on 02/16/2009 4:35:02 PM PST by angkor
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To: Quix
I suppose you are also unaware of the great strides that the implantable computer chip/MARK OF THE BEAST ID has made toward being required of every human and kept animal on the planet?

It did not take any kind of implantable computer chip for Bama to seduce his multiple millions to believe. And what kind of chip can anybody implant into anyone else to make that person believe anything.

What is the deception? Find that answer and you will know WHO the instead of Jesus is.

92 posted on 02/16/2009 4:36:09 PM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: angkor; TaraP; XeniaSt; Joya

I’m not sure where the disconnect is. Let me try again.

1. Conservatives are whole people with personalities, a philosophy of life—and BY FAR THE most of them . . . FAITH IN JESUS AS THE CHRIST.

2. FREEREPUBLIC.COM is a particularly good example of that with the RELIGION FORUM one of it’s most abidingly active and vigorous sections.

3. CHRISTIAN FREEPERS do not, as a rule, compartmentalize their religion vs their political philosophy as strictly as you seem to be demanding.

4. Our eschatology saturates our political understanding of these END TIMES—AT LEAST FOR A HUGE CHUNK OF THE CHRISTIANS ON FR.

5. Biblical prophecy has been fulfilled to the letter throughout history . . . and since Israel became a nation again in a day in 1948 precisely as Scripture predicted—the prophetic clock has been clicking along at a faster and faster pace with headline after headline seeming to leap right off the pages of Biblical Prophecy in clearer and clearer specific fulfillments.

6. The Bible makes clear that in the era wherein Israel is gathered back to the Holy Land and becomes a nation again—that generation seeing that will have some members still alive WHO WILL SEE THE RISE AND THE DEFEAT OF THE WORLD GOVERNMENT LEADER OF THE ANTI-CHRIST.

7. Rather interesting that for the first time in history—IN THIS ERA, we also have THE TECHNOLOGY TO MAKE THE BIBLICAL PREDICTION ABOUT THE MARK OF THE BEAST—WITHOUT WHICH NO ONE WOULD BE ABLE TO BUY OR SELL—for the first time in history, that’s technologically possible and the Oligarchy has been inexorably moving towards that for decades.

8. IF you were even 30% aware of the quotes of our leaders since 1900 ref’d in my tagline—yet again, you’d have reason to trust The Bible’s prophetic teachings about the End Times and the Anti-Christ.

9. The Biblically predicted world government has been in place under the table for some time. OThuga is dedicated to making it more overt. Guess who steps up to take the reigns of that overt world government . . . . THE ANTI-CHRIST! DOH! Any Jr High school student of Biblical prophecy knows that. Why don’t you seem to?

10. At some point, one begins to wonder how many FINO’s have been hiding out hereon for a long time . . . FREEPERS IN NAME ONLY . . . and how many are gloablist shills in the paid service of the Oligarchy to stir up trouble on Conservative forums.

11. AS for me and my house, WE SHALL SERVE THE LORD.

12. And, most of us shall do what we can, as good watchmen on the wall, to warn others of the looming dramas so clearly outlined in Scripture.

13. Of course, God has provided that all who decline to live eternally with Him, shall have their own warmly, gapingly, welcoming abode.

A good prophecy site is this one listing 101 LAST DAYS PROPHECIES. It might be a good survival issue to be aware of them:

http://www.understandthetimes.org/101prophecy.shtml


93 posted on 02/16/2009 4:39:14 PM PST by Quix (POL BOSSES say fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: angkor

Well do you see the world embracing Pro-Christ? Antichrist I believe is an individual, some think it is a rejection of the Gospel that society will embrace.

Either way..We are living in the day that you could definetly say is *Antichrist*


94 posted on 02/16/2009 4:40:02 PM PST by TaraP (The RAPTURE: Separation of Church and State)
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To: Free Vulcan
The problem I have with that is those who are saved during the Tribulation period. Do they not have the Holy Spirit?

No, they do not...Their salvation will be based on faith AND works...They will receive salvation IF they endure to the end (of the Tribulation)...

Mat 24:13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.
Mat 24:14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.
Mat 24:15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)

95 posted on 02/16/2009 4:41:07 PM PST by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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To: Quix

Amen Quix!!


96 posted on 02/16/2009 4:41:28 PM PST by TaraP (The RAPTURE: Separation of Church and State)
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To: angkor

OThuga is not the AC.

1. He IS a well connected, well trained, conditioned, brain-washed stalking horse/forerunner . . . testing waters for how much the Oligarchy can get away with how soon.

2. He is probably the first “President” totally Constitutionally ineligible.

3. He is in power as a result of MASSIVE VOTER FRAUD AND UNPRECEDENTED MSM ADULATION AND AID.

4. He is the first “President” in power who has worked all his adult life with dedicated Communists/Globalists DELIBERATELY STRATEGIZING how to murder 25 million Americans; how to destroy America as wholesale and rapidly as possible.

The list could go on and on and on.

It boggles my mind that ANY “FREEPER” could call the current situation business as usual.

Where have you been the last 10 years . . . the last 3 years . . . in a Jihadi cave?


97 posted on 02/16/2009 4:45:07 PM PST by Quix (POL BOSSES say fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Iscool

No, it will not. Salvation is the same through all ages. In the Old Testament is was by looking to the future Messiah in faith. Today it is looking back to the Messiah in faith. There are not two plans of salvation, only one. There are different ways God works in men’s lives, but not different was of salvation.

Salvation is not, was not, and will never be by works or any mixture thereof because all of our righteousness is as filthy rags before God. Jesus’ righteousness is what gets us into Heaven and Jesus keeps whom He saves.


98 posted on 02/16/2009 4:47:02 PM PST by Blogger (Christians- Remember Nineveh.)
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To: Free Vulcan

I think the catching away will occur at least after serious birth pangs . . . of the GREAT TRIBULATION, WHICH WE ARE ALREADY IN . . . i.e. the birth pangs.


99 posted on 02/16/2009 4:47:04 PM PST by Quix (POL BOSSES say fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: TaraP; Alamo-Girl; airborne; American in Israel; AnimalLover; auggy; backhoe; backslacker; ...

END TIMES PING LIST PING:

PLEASE LET Joya; MarySecretary and I know if you want on or off the list.


100 posted on 02/16/2009 4:49:51 PM PST by Quix (POL BOSSES say fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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