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Shock: Evangelical Leader Believes in Gay Civil Unions, Says OK to Vote for Obama
www.lifesitenews.com ^ | John-Henry Westen

Posted on 12/03/2008 10:19:06 PM PST by voiceinthewind

Shock: Evangelical Leader Believes in Gay Civil Unions, Says OK to Vote for Obama

By John-Henry Westen

WASHINGTON, December 3, 2008 (LifeSiteNews.com) - The Chief Lobbyist and Vice President for Governmental Affairs for the National Association of Evangelicals (NAE) gave an interview to National Public Radio yesterday in which he admitted to shifting on gay “marriage,” voting for Barack Obama and having a marked distaste for Sarah Palin. Richard Cizik, spokesman for the NAE, which represents 45,000 US churches, told NPR yesterday that he voted for Obama in the Virginia primary but didn't want to reveal how he voted in the general election.

"I happen to think in the primary he was the best choice," said Cizik of Obama. Cizik explained that he held party philosophy and the character of the candidate above particular issues. He thus suggested: "It would be possible to for Evangelicals to disagree with Barack Obama on same sex marriage and abortion and yet vote for him."

Cizik expressed an obvious distaste for Sarah Palin, citing her stand on the environment as "ignorance" and accusing her of lacking in humility, a trait which he says he admired in Obama.

Asked if he had changed his mind on homosexual “marriage,” Cizik replied, "I'm shifting I have to admit. In other words I would willingly say that I believe in civil unions. I don't officially support redefining marriage from its traditional definition I don't think."

He advocated that Evangelicals change focus away from the homosexual “marriage” debate. Revealingly, he said on the subject, "Maybe we need to reevaluate this and look at it a little differently. I'm always looking for ways to reframe issues. Give the biblical point of view a different slant."

Cizik said he would "absolutely" support Obama in his scheme to reduce abortions by "government supplying contraception." He explained, "We're not Catholics who oppose contraception per se."

Listen to the NPR interview here: http://www.npr.org/templates/player/mediaPlayer.html?action=...


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1 posted on 12/03/2008 10:19:06 PM PST by voiceinthewind
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To: voiceinthewind

apostasy


2 posted on 12/03/2008 10:22:42 PM PST by thesetruths
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Obama Says A Baby Is A Punishment

Obama: “If they make a mistake, I don’t want them punished with a baby.”

3 posted on 12/03/2008 10:25:47 PM PST by narses (http://www.theobamadisaster.com/)
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To: voiceinthewind

Well, isn’t that special...


4 posted on 12/03/2008 10:25:58 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (Democracy, two wolves and one sheep deciding what's for dinner.)
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To: voiceinthewind

He sounds...well...gay.


5 posted on 12/03/2008 10:27:01 PM PST by Prokopton
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To: voiceinthewind

he’s also an environmental wacko


6 posted on 12/03/2008 10:27:27 PM PST by thesetruths
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To: thesetruths

I wonder if the leaders who wouldn’t stand with Dr. Dobson in 2007 still feel the love. He seems to be very focused on environmental issues.


7 posted on 12/03/2008 10:30:01 PM PST by voiceinthewind
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To: thesetruths

I wonder what he means by “Give the biblical point of view a different slant”. The Bible is pretty clear on homosexuality, so I’m not sure how he can change that.


8 posted on 12/03/2008 10:32:29 PM PST by voiceinthewind
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“..Give the biblical point of view a different slant...”

Satan said something along the same line in the Garden of Eden and his servants are working overtime these days. Absolutely a wolf in Sheep's clothing.

9 posted on 12/03/2008 10:35:24 PM PST by 444Flyer (Hellfighter-John 3 :1-36)
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To: voiceinthewind

Richard Cizik? Never heard of him before.

Leader? No he is not.

NAE is to Christendom what the NEA is to the teaching profession. The NAE, National Association of Evangelicals, is liberal and apostate.

Shock? No, this is not a shock to actual Bible-believing practicing Christians, which we have observed in the lives of “evangelicals, does not describe any segment of the NAE.

The NAE at BEST represents a divided and undermining testimony in the “Christian” sphere.

We would not recommend that any new Christian ever join a church that iis affiliated with the NAE, and we always encourage Christians with a godly interest in serving Christ, to come out from among such and be separate.

45,000 churches . . . apostate bunch.

There are many more than 45,000 Christian churches which do NOT belong and would not belong to the NAE.


10 posted on 12/03/2008 10:35:33 PM PST by John Leland 1789
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To: voiceinthewind

True, but it doesn’t address gay civil unions.

Nonetheless, his tone suggests he is wishy-washy about all his beliefs and easily swayed by theologically liberal arguments.


11 posted on 12/03/2008 10:35:40 PM PST by Arguendo
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To: John Leland 1789
We would not recommend that any new Christian ever join a church that iis affiliated with the NAE, and we always encourage Christians with a godly interest in serving Christ, to come out from among such and be separate.

You would seriously recommend Christians avoid a solid denomination like the Presbyterian Church in America because it is affiliated with the NAE? That seems a little extreme.

12 posted on 12/03/2008 10:41:40 PM PST by Arguendo
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To: John Leland 1789

John Leland, is the organization pretty well known in Evangelical circles? I’ve never heard of it, but I have heard of Dr. Dobson. I’m not Evangelical, but am curious.


13 posted on 12/03/2008 10:42:02 PM PST by voiceinthewind
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To: voiceinthewind

http://tinyurl.com/5bjkxw

In addition to his position with the NAE, Cizik sits on the advisory boards of the Pew Forum on Religion and Public Life and the Institute on Religion and Public Policy.

Cizik has been criticized for his environmentalism by fellow evangelicals and conservatives.[3] He has responded to some of these critics by asking whether his critics are possibly being influenced by their close ties to the conservative movement or oil and gas companies.

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Richard Cizik wants evangelicals to reach out to Barack Obama as he takes on his new role. I just spoke with Cizik, who is the vice president for governmental affairs of the National Association of Evangelicals.

“I think anybody who doesn’t see the extraordinary significance of the first African American being elected the United States, they’re missing history. I think it’s an extraordinary moment in American history. I have to say, I never really believed I’d be able to see the day that I would see an African American or any minority would be elected the president of the United States. I never thought it would happened. “

“America is changing. The religious communities of America are changing, too. Anybody who doesn’t understand that the multi-racial nature of American politics today fails to capture what’s happening. The Republican Party has to be afraid that it’s monochromatic.”

“I suspect that millions upon millions of evangelicals around the world are extremely proud of America tonight. I’m confident that Barack Obama wants to unite this country. I hope the better angels of Obama’s nature triumph, and I frankly don’t agree with everything on him. I suspect there will be actions he takes I don’t agree with. I think it’s important to have the right attitude – the attitude of Christ – which is he needs our prayers and our support, even if we don’t agree with him.”

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Polluters will have to answer to God, not just government, according to Richard Cizik. Vice president of governmental affairs for the National Association of Evangelicals, Cizik is a pro-Bush Bible-brandishing reverend zealously opposed to abortion, gay marriage, and embryonic stem-cell research. He is also on a mission to convert tens of millions of Americans to the cause of conservation, using a right-to-life framework. Cizik has been crisscrossing the U.S. in recent months, spreading the doctrine of “creation care” to evangelical Christians.

Thanks to his leadership, NAE, one of the most politically powerful religious advocacy groups in America, released a manifesto last year urging its members to adopt eco-friendly living habits and exhorting the government to lighten America’s environmental footprint. Next month, the organization will begin circulating a charter calling on its member network and top-level Beltway allies to fight global warming.

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HE SOUNDS TO ME LIKE HE IS NUTS!


14 posted on 12/03/2008 10:50:34 PM PST by kcvl
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To: voiceinthewind

... faults Palin for a “lack of humility” while voting for a man who has written two autobiographies prior to any meaningful accomplishment, stands on a stage with Greek pillars, and makes up a mock Presidential seal with his image.

Wow! This guy has GREAT discernment!


15 posted on 12/03/2008 10:51:38 PM PST by the_Watchman
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To: Arguendo

“Presbyterian Church in America because it is affiliated with the NAE?”


If the PCA is affiliated with the NAE, then I question its wisdom, frankly. If someone desiring a Presbyterian form of church order or government were to ask me (which has only happened twice that I remember), I would more likely recommend the churches affiliate with the Bible Presbyterians (HdQ. Charlotte), or the Free Presbyterians (HdQ. Belfast, Ireland, but with churches in the USA).

Check out their web sites.


16 posted on 12/03/2008 11:00:06 PM PST by John Leland 1789
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To: voiceinthewind

This chaps my tail. Went to their website to check for individual church membership - only denominations and organizations.

http://www.nae.net/index.cfm?fuseaction=nae.members&listId=organizations


17 posted on 12/03/2008 11:00:08 PM PST by AmericanGirlRising (The cow is in the ditch. We know how it got there. Now help me get it out!)
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To: Arguendo

Excuse me. I should have said, Belfast, Ulter (Free Presbyterian Church).


18 posted on 12/03/2008 11:03:11 PM PST by John Leland 1789
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To: voiceinthewind

He sounds like one of those “emergent” creatures.


19 posted on 12/03/2008 11:03:54 PM PST by thesetruths
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To: voiceinthewind
Evangelical Leader

No, smarmy opportunist!

20 posted on 12/03/2008 11:06:48 PM PST by GregoryFul
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