[mrjesse]

So being honest is cause for being disbelieved?

Being honest about being dishonest, you mean?

I supply sources and information.

Yeah, after multiple goadings :-)

Never believe anything on faith.

So I guess you don't believe in the big bang, then that there was nothing and it gave birth to something?

Look at the data. Use scienc, but never, never believe anyone who claims they don’t lie. It is the surest sign that they are a liar.

You are operating on the false presumption that it is not possible for a person to have a highest goal of never lying. If you ask me, a person who says that it is their goal to never lie is much more trustworthy then one that says it is sometimes okay to lie. The first at least can be presumed to be honest until proven guilty, while the other has already proclaimed himself to be guilty!

It's also funny that on one hand you say it is sometimes okay to lie, while on the other hand you decry as a lier anyone who claims to claims to not lie, as if you think lying is bad when they do it!

-Jesse

[Soliton]

You never lie? You are a liar.

[Soliton]

So you aren’t interested in the truth at all? Trust or faith isn’t a path for truth, evidence is.

You aren’t what I thought you were. I’m sorry.