[Soliton]

It sounds like you consider it important that lying is sometimes OK which requires that God not exist, since in the Bible God tells us to not lie. Thus I can see that you have a reason besides science to hope that the universe came to be by some other means then God. Am I wrong?

Just as material lies harm our society, little lies make it work. Anoither name for little lies is politeness. You can deny it, but it is true, Imagine what would happen if everyone was honest with their boss.

[mrjesse]

Just as material lies harm our society, little lies make it work. Anoither name for little lies is politeness. You can deny it, but it is true, Imagine what would happen if everyone was honest with their boss.

If someone stinks, you can either lie to them and say "You smell fine" or you can tell them the truth and say "You smell but not fine" or you can be polite and say nothing - especially if they didn't ask!

Your idea is bankrupt which says the only alternative to an embarrassing truth is a lie.

But I can see how your mentality is shared by others in the scientific field and I have no doubt that many many scientists agree with you. I also suspect that many little lies (seen as politeness) among peers in the evolutionary scientific field are what make their society work, and have brought us what we have today.

-Jesse

[mrjesse]

Just as material lies harm our society, little lies make it work.

What is the dividing line between a material lie and a little lie? I'll bet the difference is that you can't get away with a material lie, but you can get away with a little lie.

Aren't lies always told to get one out of a bind or when the truth would bring some misery?

So if a large enough body of people all wanted to say the same lie to get out of a bind or some misery, then they could all say it and get away with it, even if it was a material lie!

-Jesse