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To: LeGrande; mrjesse
In a two body system there is no difference between one body spinning in relation to the other body or one body orbiting a stationary body.

Oh dear, what a horrible error on your part. Foucault's Pendulum.

My example was simple, is the sun where it appears to be when you look at it? Or is it ahead of where it appears to be? You seem to think that it is where it appears to be, you are wrong.

You've entrenched yourself in geocentrism. The sun's present apparent angular position, x(t) is 8 minutes ahead of the position it was at 8 minutes ago when it emitted the light you now see. x(t - 8 + 8) = x(t), i.e., the sun is where mrjesse says it is.

489 posted on 07/03/2008 8:52:50 PM PDT by Ethan Clive Osgoode (<<== Click here to learn about Darwinism!)
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode; mrjesse
Oh dear, what a horrible error on your part. Foucault's Pendulum.

Yes and you can detect constant acceleration through an increase in heat. But if it is only the Earth and the pendulum (remember this is a two body problem not three) how do you determine whether the earth or the pendulum is moving?

Let me ask you a question. Do you believe that the galaxy Abell 68 c1 is where it appears to be when you look into the sky or do you think that it might have moved in the billions of years that the light took to reach us?

You've entrenched yourself in geocentrism. The sun's present apparent angular position, x(t) is 8 minutes ahead of the position it was at 8 minutes ago when it emitted the light you now see. x(t - 8 + 8) = x(t), i.e., the sun is where mrjesse says it is.

LOL Your statement is correct (The sun's present apparent angular position, x(t) is 8 minutes ahead of the position it was at 8 minutes ago when it emitted the light you now see.) but your equation is wrong. You can either add 8 minutes or subtract 8 minutes depending on your reference but not both.

MrJesse is claiming that according to his merry go round experiment that the sun is in exactly the same place that we see it, when we see it. You seem to agree, according to your equation and statement "the sun is where mrjesse says it is." Both of you are wrong, we see the Sun where it was 8 minutes ago when the photons were emitted. When we look at the planets, Stars and galaxies we are looking into the past and with the galaxies we are sometimes looking billions of years into the past. They are no longer where we see them and they would look different today if we could see them as they actually are today. But of course we will have to wait billions of years for the photons they are sending today to get to us.

496 posted on 07/04/2008 6:41:36 AM PDT by LeGrande
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