I give. You win. Good luck : )
It wasn't winning I wanted nearly so much as the truth and to learn. I'm used to things making sense, or at least being able to understand why I can't understand them.
At which point did you realize that your statement (about the sun appearing "about 7 minutes" behind its actual postion) was foundationally incorrect? A few moments after posting it? After thinking about the merry go around? When?
If you knew right away or at some point significantly before admitting it, then I will have to believe that my inability to make sense of much of what you said about other things well may have been do to a lack of honesty on your part.
If it took you that long to figure out some simple physics (or if you think the sun orbits the earth more then the earth the sun) then I will have to believe that my inability to make sense of much of what you said was a result of your poor understanding of physics.
Either way, please don't go about presenting as fact incorrect or far-out scientific claims that you don't understand or aren't honest about. (Hey, I don't know which of the two it is. But I can't see how it's anything other then at least one of the two.)
I realize that everybody makes mistakes. Had you said "Oh whoops, you're right, that doesn't well illustrate the my point about fields, let me try again", I'd probably tease you a little but then say "Go ahead and let's try another." But from what I can tell, you kept on defending your incorrect statement far beyond the point which I can imagine you not seeing the error in it. Either that or your understanding is so limited that you still may not see the error in it -- in which case the only honest response would have been to say you didn't understand it.
Can you please help me understand what happened? Does your worldview permit white lies or "unintended deceptions" as long as nobody gets seriously hurt? Mine doesn't.
Doesn't atheism allow little things like that?
I encourage you to keep studying physics, though. They really are a fascinating and fun topic. I'll be glad to try to explain things if you have any questions or things that don't make sense. I'm no genius to be sure, but I'm willing to help to the small degree that I may be able to.
Thanks,