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To: LurkingSince'98

“And the kecharitomene is the past perfect form meaning ALWAYS
full of grace.You cannot have always been full of grace andbe a sinner.”

First, Gabriel said, “ And he came in unto her, and said,
Hail, thou that art highly favored, the Lord is with thee”
- not Hail, full of grace. The word is a perfect participle -
showing she was a recipient of grace ie - “favored”.
And not a bestower of grace. The context also prohibits this.

Eph. 1:6 is the only other use of this word in the NT,
and is there rendered to mean, “made acceptable”.

You do know the difference between grace, holiness and
sinlessness? Mary received grace, but was not sinless
as a human.

They are quite different.

Mary should be exalted and esteemed, as God said.
She should not be worshiped. In fact, no where does
it say she should be prayed to or that she can even
hear a prayer of someone on earth.

In general, Protestants make too little of Mary and
Catholics too much.

best,
ampu


179 posted on 05/03/2008 1:08:06 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
Gabriel said, " And he came in unto her, and said, Hail, thou that art highly favored, the Lord is with thee" - not Hail, full of grace. The word is a perfect participle - showing she was a recipient of grace ie - "favored".

And not a bestower of grace. The context also prohibits this.

Eph. 1:6 is the only other use of this word in the NT, and is there rendered to mean, "made acceptable".

You do know the difference between grace, holiness and sinlessness? Mary received grace, but was not sinless as a human.

They are quite different.

Amen.

Adding further insult to the young woman God graced to bear the Christ child, the RCC labels Mary as the "Co-Redeemer" and "Dispensatrix of all Grace."

Along with viewing RC priests as "another Christ," that is as close to blasphemy as I've ever read or heard.

186 posted on 05/03/2008 1:31:41 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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