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Author: 'Pottermania' spells trouble<br>Warns real occultism permeates popular children's books
World Net Daily ^ | 6/27/2007 | Jennifer Carden

Posted on 06/28/2007 11:37:27 AM PDT by mngran

...[C]ontends author Steve Wohlberg, what many people don't know is that when Harry Potter and his Firebolt whoosh off the shelf, he's not alone. A victory for Harry Potter means a victory for Wicca, a religion that practices various forms of witchcraft.

And the acclaimed DVD program, "Harry Potter: Witchcraft Repackaged, dramatically documents Potter references to evolution, reincarnation, sorcery, divination, spells, curses and other occult factors....

Wohlberg feels allowing children to read Potter just isn't worth the risk. "There are much better things for our kids to read," he said. "My wife and I have a three-year-old son who loves stories. Daily we read to him stories that teach lessons about honesty, purity, truth-telling, respect for parents, faith, and obedience to God. In 'Harry Potter,' young Harry lies a lot, break rules at school, curses, throws temper tantrums, and even drinks 'firewhisky' (he's an underage drinker)."

"There's a big difference," said Wohlberg, between Harry Potter and other children's fantasy fare. "J.K. Rowling has publicly admitted that at least 30 percent of her novels is based on real occultism. The 'Harry Potter' novels are a unique blend of fantasy and reality."

"They refer to real places, real occultists (Aldabert Waffling and Nicholas Flamel), real practices (astrology, palmistry, fortune-telling, divination), and real occult philosophy. Based on my research, the extent of real occultism embedded into 'children's literature' is unprecedented," he continued.

(Excerpt) Read more at worldnetdaily.com ...


TOPICS: Current Events; Other Christian
KEYWORDS: bookreview; culture; harrypotter; moralabsolutes; occult; wingnutdaily
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There's a fine line between fantasy and glorifying evil. Potter may take things too far, especially for impressionable children. My church is pretty anti-Potter.
1 posted on 06/28/2007 11:37:29 AM PDT by mngran
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To: mngran

Heh. First time I’ve seen evolution described as “occult”. Does that make Christian theistic evolutionists Satanists?


2 posted on 06/28/2007 11:39:28 AM PDT by ahayes ("Impenetrability! That's what I say!")
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I think that it is pretty silly to think that the books somehow glorify evil. The stories clearly distinguish which characters are good and which characters are evil.


3 posted on 06/28/2007 11:39:47 AM PDT by blitzgig
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"They refer to real places, real occultists (Aldabert Waffling and Nicholas Flamel), real practices (astrology, palmistry, fortune-telling, divination), and real occult philosophy...

All that to promote a made-up problem.

4 posted on 06/28/2007 11:40:33 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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Kind of like the John Edwards campaign raising money based on whatever Ann Coulter said recently.


5 posted on 06/28/2007 11:42:20 AM PDT by RedRover (DefendOurMarines.com)
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The stories clearly celebrate Christmas, Easter, etc,

plus they also clearly deliniate the good and the evil, and glorify the DEFEAT of evil.


6 posted on 06/28/2007 11:42:34 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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Its fiction, for crying out loud. Lord of the Rings has magic everywhere, but there’s been book after book showing it has a Christian message. Chronicles of Narnia has the same thing. I’m not saying Harry Potter has any kind of Christian message, just having a lot of magic in it does not make a book wrong. I see nothing in Harry Potter promoting magic, it’s just a book about wizards in a fictional school/fictional England. Everyone needs to ease up a bit.


7 posted on 06/28/2007 11:42:37 AM PDT by oakcon (Dulce et Decorum est pro Patria mori)
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To: mngran; retrokitten

Potterping!


8 posted on 06/28/2007 11:43:57 AM PDT by abner (I have no tagline, therefore no identity.)
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To: mngran

Kids lose interest in Wicca as soon as they find out that the spells don’t work.


9 posted on 06/28/2007 11:44:31 AM PDT by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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To: mngran

I like the books very much and do not see the harm.


10 posted on 06/28/2007 11:46:03 AM PDT by nyconse
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Kind of like the John Edwards campaign raising money based on whatever Ann Coulter said recently.

Except that that works. Whenever Coulter gets into a peeing contest with Edwards his campaign contributions go up and her book sales go up. Those two should send each other Christmas cards.

11 posted on 06/28/2007 11:46:12 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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To: mngran

There’s a fine line between sanity and paranoiac imaginings of occultists under every bed. Some people have crossed over it, apparently.


12 posted on 06/28/2007 11:47:26 AM PDT by -YYZ- (Strong like bull, smart like ox.)
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To: mngran

I think churches need to deal with real world problems, not fiction books.


13 posted on 06/28/2007 11:47:42 AM PDT by Hazcat (Live to party, work to afford it.)
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Muggles struggle to muzzle mages, Hermione hardest hit.
14 posted on 06/28/2007 11:48:01 AM PDT by Dr.Zoidberg (Mohammedanism - Bringing you only the best of the 6th century for fourteen hundred years.)
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“There’s a fine line between fantasy and glorifying evil.”

No, there isn’t. The two are mutually exclusive of each other. One has nothing to do with the other.

Evil resides in the hearts of men and is real. Riding around on broomsticks and zapping people with magic wands is not. Attemting to connect fantasy with reality only serves to marginalize real evil as a form of fantasy itself.


15 posted on 06/28/2007 11:49:41 AM PDT by L98Fiero (A fool who'll waste his life, God rest his guts.)
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To: retrokitten
*pingus maxima*



16 posted on 06/28/2007 11:50:00 AM PDT by tiredoflaundry (The greatest danger to our sovereignty is the Congress of the United States.)
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Christians have much bigger fish to fry. I don’t know why we waste so much time on stuff like this.
17 posted on 06/28/2007 11:51:11 AM PDT by Jaysun (It's like people who hate corn bread and hate anchovies, but love cornchovie bread.)
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Well, we've been through all this before, but . . . . .

I happen to have a little background in this sort of thing, since I know some Wiccans, did a lot of Classics and medieval history in school, and used to indulge in palmistry and Tarot card reading in my hippie years (gave that all up and never looked back a long time ago, and now I'm a Catholic, so doubly not).

But, anyhow, the Harry Potter stories don't have any real magic in them, either Wiccan or ceremonial. The spell names are mostly Latin puns (some of them excruciating), and almost all the magic is achieved by the use of words and magical objects, not actual ritual (which is how these things work). It doesn't follow any known system. The mention of occasional medieval alchemists etc. is just window-dressing.

The best way I can describe the Potter stories is that they follow a long, long line of British public (what we call private) school fiction that has been popular in England since Victorian times but has never really taken hold in America (probably because our school system is so different, except in the old NE boarding prep schools.) From Tom Brown's Schooldays through Stalky & Co. (although Kipling's book has merit on its own aside from the genre) to the Jennings and Chalet School series, these books follow a timeworn formula that everybody knows. The closest thing we have in America is probably all those football and baseball storybooks for young teenagers.

18 posted on 06/28/2007 11:51:58 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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We go through about a month of this “Harry Potter is the Devil” nonsense prior to the release of each successive book. I honestly don’t think Rowling needs the publicity, but thanks just the same.


19 posted on 06/28/2007 11:53:26 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: mngran

Where does your church stand on Christopher Pike and R.L. Stine?


20 posted on 06/28/2007 11:54:01 AM PDT by nina0113 (If fences don't work, why does the White House have one?)
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