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To: fortheDeclaration

Just arriving on this thread, and it's too late to pound-away at the keyboard trying to refute utter nonsense point-by-point. So this will serve: the quality of your scholarship is demonstrated by your assertion that the Catholics have 14 books in their Bible that the Protestants do not. Please, by all means, go ahead and NAME them. I count only seven (46 versus 39), and they are far from "extra" relative to your OT. Good night.


192 posted on 02/07/2006 6:33:23 PM PST by magisterium
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To: magisterium
Just arriving on this thread, and it's too late to pound-away at the keyboard trying to refute utter nonsense point-by-point. So this will serve: the quality of your scholarship is demonstrated by your assertion that the Catholics have 14 books in their Bible that the Protestants do not. Please, by all means, go ahead and NAME them. I count only seven (46 versus 39), and they are far from "extra" relative to your OT. Good night.

This is what is known as 'straining at a gnat'.

The number of Books that were regarded as being 'Apocrypha' were 12.

The Roman Catholic Bible has 7 of them (not counting the addition to Daniel).

Since the point was that the Roman Catholic Bible is not the same as the Protestant one, having more books in its Canon then we do, the fact remains unchanged no matter what number you decided to finally put in your Bible.

Deuterocanonical Apocrypha Index The Apocrypha refer to texts which are left out of officially sanctioned versions ('canon') of the Bible. The term means 'things hidden away,' which implies secret or esoteric literature. However, none of these texts were ever considered secret.

In some Protestant Bibles, they are placed between the New and Old Testament. In the Roman Catholic Bibles the books are interspersed with the rest of the text. In this case they are also called 'Deuterocanonical', which means 'secondary canon.' The books on this page are all Deuterocanonical.

Jerome rejected the Deuterocanonical books when he was translating the Bible into Latin circa 450 CE, (see the Vulgate). This was because no Hebrew version of these texts could be found, even though they were present in the Greek Old Testament (the Septuagint). However, they eventually were accepted by the Church, and most of them remained part of the Bible. Protestants rejected these books during the Reformation as lacking divine authority. They either excised them completely or placed them in a third section of the Bible. The Roman Catholic Council of Trent, on the other hand, declared in 1546 that the Deuterocanonical books were indeed divine.

Of these books, Tobias, Judith, the Wisdom of Solomon, Baruch, and Maccabees, remain in the Catholic Bible. First Esdras, Second Esdras, Epistle of Jeremiah, Susanna, Bel and the Dragon, Prayer of Manasseh, Prayer of Azariah, and Laodiceans are not today considered part of the Catholic apocrypha.

http://www.sacred-texts.com/bib/apo/

So while there are only seven (not 14) they are seven too many, none of which were in the Hebrew Canon.

That is why even many early Roman Catholics,(before Trent) such as Jerome, did not consider them equal to scripture.

Now, you can go back to sleep.

201 posted on 02/08/2006 3:18:54 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (Gal. 4:16)
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