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Closing of the National Shrine of St. Ann in NYC by Egan this Sunday
Anti-abomination.com ^ | 1/13/05 | Anthony Flood

Posted on 01/14/2005 6:38:59 PM PST by thor76

A MESSAGE TO CARDINAL EGAN AND HIS LACKEYS ON THE OCCASION OF THE LAST NOVUS ORDO MASS AT THE NATIONAL SHRINE OF SAINT ANN’S

You, Sir, may be finished with this church. But we are not finished with you. You may think you have won, but we will not rest until your name is blackened in the annals of the Church and the mere mention of “Egan” nauseates the faithful as does “Esau” and “Judas.” When you enter a room, be it the Waldorf Astoria’s Grand Ballroom, the Metropolitan Opera’s Belmont Room, or any of the other humble venues you frequent, the decent will rise, not to applaud you, but to give you their backs and leave if you do not.

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TOPICS: Activism; Catholic; Current Events; History; Ministry/Outreach; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture; Worship
KEYWORDS: cardinalegan; catholic; churchclosings; newyork
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah; thor76; All

I've often wondered where the SSPX get the beautiful altars and statues they have. Do they buy them at auctions when dioceses close churches? Does anyone know?


21 posted on 01/14/2005 8:14:54 PM PST by murphE ("I ain't no physicist, but I know what matters." - Popeye)
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To: AAABEST

Interesting. If the lawyers and DA are sucessful in forcing him, it paves the way for him to be deposed in multiple counties in and around NY, and well as in Cook County, Ill.

He may be sinking into deep horse manure.

Good.


22 posted on 01/14/2005 8:17:02 PM PST by thor76 (Vade retro, Draco! Crux sacra sit mihi lux !)
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To: thor76

Thor, can you get the Church declared a historical monument? They do that with old churches out on Long Island. Maybe you could appeal to the media?


23 posted on 01/14/2005 8:21:34 PM PST by murphE ("I ain't no physicist, but I know what matters." - Popeye)
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To: murphE; CouncilofTrent; ndkos

They and other interested parties may well be able to do this. If the building s furnishings - those which are not scanvenged by other No pastors - are disposed of by auction, that may well be possible.

It would seem that the High Altar is going to be ripped out by Egan and placed in storage on Staten Island - but that is all I know. Presumably, the several side altars and shrines, would be available.

The stained glass - in part - dates back to the pre-civil war era, when St. Ann's was the 12th Street Presbyterian Church, and then the original home of Central Synagogue.

As previously stated, the pipe organ - built by Henry Erben in 1854 (3 manuals, 50 ranks), and largely intact (though unplayable)has an uncertain fate.


24 posted on 01/14/2005 8:23:30 PM PST by thor76 (Vade retro, Draco! Crux sacra sit mihi lux !)
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To: murphE
Do they buy them at auctions when dioceses close churches? Does anyone know?

There have been times when good-hearted Protestants have acted as middle-men to save Catholic altars for Catholics. Otherwise, most NO parishes would destroy an altar before giving/selling it to an SSPX parish.

25 posted on 01/14/2005 8:24:17 PM PST by Land of the Irish (Tradidi quod et accepi)
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To: thor76

This is terrible! I can't believe it.


26 posted on 01/14/2005 8:25:27 PM PST by BlueAngel
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To: thor76

I didn't want to look at the pictures because I knew I'd be sickened, and I was right I was. What a waste.


27 posted on 01/14/2005 8:25:43 PM PST by murphE ("I ain't no physicist, but I know what matters." - Popeye)
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To: sinkspur
Well, now, thor, I was prepared to disagree with you vehemently over these closures.

Heh.

I saw your screename out on the board an expected to come in here to find you saying something about plumbing and building codes while urging FR posters to start a collection to buy St. Ann's.

I've noticed lately that you're given to being softer and wiser in general... constructive even. Is everything OK?

Don't tell my friends, but I've actually been learning things from you.

28 posted on 01/14/2005 8:26:26 PM PST by AAABEST (Lord have mercy on us)
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To: murphE

This is one of many Manhattan Churches whose cause for Landmark declaration was considered by the NYC LAndmark Commission. But to the best of my knowledge, it was not declared so.

Perhaps a last ditch effort could be mounted.

Though, if you look at the site the article is from, there are pictires of what Egan had done to St. Thomas the Apostle Church in Harlem.....taking jackhammers to the High altar and side altars to make them unusable. This was done on purpose - to make the church basicly unrestorable, and unusable for Catholic mass.

Egan also started to demolish St. Thomas without a proper city permit...adn was stopped cold! He did this on purpose to forstall any lay opposition, or landmarking effort.

We are dealing with pure evil here.


29 posted on 01/14/2005 8:28:37 PM PST by thor76 (Vade retro, Draco! Crux sacra sit mihi lux !)
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To: Land of the Irish

Do you know where they get them from? At the chapel I attend it is obvious that they are not new.


30 posted on 01/14/2005 8:29:34 PM PST by murphE ("I ain't no physicist, but I know what matters." - Popeye)
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To: Land of the Irish; murphE

Otherwise, most NO parishes would destroy an altar before giving/selling it to an SSPX parish."

I was about to say something similar. A middle man is required in these cases, as the NO clergy do not want these things used for mass.....any mass. They just want them destroyed. Bizarre.


31 posted on 01/14/2005 8:31:15 PM PST by thor76 (Vade retro, Draco! Crux sacra sit mihi lux !)
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To: thor76

I'd place Miraculous Medals all around the perimeter of the church to aid in any last effort you make.


32 posted on 01/14/2005 8:32:42 PM PST by murphE ("I ain't no physicist, but I know what matters." - Popeye)
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To: thor76

Bizarre or sinister?


33 posted on 01/14/2005 8:34:02 PM PST by murphE ("I ain't no physicist, but I know what matters." - Popeye)
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To: AAABEST
I've noticed lately that you're given to being softer and wiser in general... constructive even. Is everything OK?

I've always been soft and wise. Perhaps, BEST, it is you who are becoming softer and wiser?

While we are in mutual admiration mode, let me say that your weekly threads from the TLM Sunday readings are valuable, and reflect the best of the Catholic Forum.

34 posted on 01/14/2005 8:37:00 PM PST by sinkspur ("How dare you presume to tell God what He cannot do" God Himself)
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To: thor76

Did you mean to say West 37th Street rather than 47th?


35 posted on 01/14/2005 8:40:31 PM PST by Savonarola
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To: thor76

I've been inside St. Anne's and the pictures don't do it justice. The entire thing is a glorious work of art and I'm sure that all those who worked to make it such were divinely inspired.

But that ain't gunna stop Eagan from getting his grubby little paws on the CASH the sale of this treasure will bring.

God have mercy on him, indeed.

Sadly,


36 posted on 01/14/2005 8:42:03 PM PST by VermiciousKnid
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To: Savonarola

OOPS! You are right...typo!!! Holy Innocents is on west 37th Street.


37 posted on 01/14/2005 8:46:51 PM PST by thor76 (Vade retro, Draco! Crux sacra sit mihi lux !)
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To: AAABEST
BTW, BEST, I'm not a let's-pitch-everything-over-the-side type.

When I was in seminary, I thought that newly-ordained priests should take as their own one of the chalices of the priests who have gone before them. I know that in our own Cathedral, St. Patrick's in Fort Worth, there were some 20 chalices stored from priests who had died. Had I been ordained, I would have chosen one of these chalices, rather than ordering some new one.

Why? Because the priesthood is a brotherhood, and those who have gone before live on in those who follow.

None of the guys seemed interested in my idea, but I couldn't understand not continuing the "lineage" by claiming one of the chalices, left behind.

What better expression could a newly-ordained priest exhibit than consecrating the Body and Blood the Lord in a vessel used by a priest in his diocese who had already tilled the ground in the Vineyard?

Corny, maybe, but I couldn't think of a better expression of the priestly fraternity.

38 posted on 01/14/2005 8:55:33 PM PST by sinkspur ("How dare you presume to tell God what He cannot do" God Himself)
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To: thor76

Do you know if the Knights of Columbus have intervened?


39 posted on 01/14/2005 8:58:12 PM PST by not-a-neocon ("It is as it was" and as it is.)
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To: sinkspur; AAABEST

I can attest to what AAABEST has said and concur with him.

You have changed for the better.


40 posted on 01/14/2005 9:04:30 PM PST by not-a-neocon ("It is as it was" and as it is.)
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