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Blame the Republicans? No, This Time It's the Christians
Patriot Paradox ^ | Nick Queen

Posted on 11/05/2004 11:35:14 AM PST by sonsofliberty2000

That's right. The Democrats have found an enemy, and this time they are aiming right at the heart of the "problem": Christians. Yes, fellow Christians, it is our fault that the Liberals cannot regain their place among the rest of the world, and they are spitting mad. Listen to this, from a columnist on Slate:

Here is how ignorance works: First, they put the fear of God into you-if you don't believe in the literal word of the Bible, you will burn in hell. Of course, the literal word of the Bible is tremendously contradictory, and so you must abdicate all critical thinking, and accept a simple but logical system of belief that is dangerous to question. A corollary to this point is that they make sure you understand that Satan resides in the toils and snares of complex thought and so it is best not try it.

Yet another, from Boing Boing:

Then, they would finally be free to have the kind of society they've always wanted; church and state can be fused so they build the kind of theocracy they've dreamt of, with Jesus at the helm. Then the new USAR (United States of America Red) can ban books, repeal civil rights, persecute gays and have all the wars they like. They want prayer in schools? More power to them. They can ban abortion and post the Ten Commandments in every federal building in their country. Bring back slavery, if they want. We'll be free to live with our like-minded countrymen who believe in science, modernism, tolerance, religion as a personal choice, and truly want limited government intrusion in our personal lives. Why should each side be driven mad by the other any more, decade after decade?

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But he told me the time would come when evolution would no longer be taught in U.S. public schools, that born-again Christians would rise up and stop the teaching of anything that contradicted the Holy Bible. And he believed it would start to happen in "years, not decades." I laughed.

Seven years later, in 1990, I was a reporter for a newspaper in northern San Diego County. And it was there I got to witness firsthand the "San Diego Surprise" -- no, not that one -- when 60 "stealth Christians" won seats throughout the county.

This was also the time of Operation Rescue, the San Diego-based anti-abortion group that managed to run off 40 of the county's 70 doctors who performed abortions while forcing the closure of a dozen or more "Planned Parenthood"-style operations in the area.

(I took part in one of Operation Rescue's raids on an abortion clinic, as a journalist. The fanatics met at a secluded parking lot miles away from the target site, in the pre-dawn hours, awaiting instructions and directions. And just as the medical office building opened, hundreds of born-agains swarmed inside. On both floors, there was literally no space to move. Packed like evangelical sardines. Locked inside the evil abortion mill were a few weeping young women, a doctor, his staff. In the halls, people were weeping too ... with joy. Some were "speaking in tongues," a sort of garbled jibberish they launch into when really excited. I remember one fat woman claiming she saw the face of Jesus in the sky, through the glass door. Like sports-betting lunatics, every mundane thing was a sign. The sun appears from behind a cloud. Hallelujah, He has blessed us! The cops turn off the power in the building, lights go out. Get behind thee, Satan! Incredible ....)

Why the hatred? Simple, its because there are people who in Christianity are hate mongers too. The guy above, Ken Layne, assumes all Christians who vote Bush are the same. Believe me, I'm against abortion, but I totally disagree with idiots storming abortion clinics,and feel the ones who bomb abortion clinics are lunatics also. My faith in Christ is not a way for me to express hatred at all liberals, or to bomb all infidels. Why the back lash? They don't understand us. They feel we hate all non-Christians, and are blinded by their hatred of something they fear or don't understand. The above was wrote in a backlash on this election. The left have found a scapegoat for this election, and it is not the policies of Bush, it is his faith in Christ, and we all are in the mix along with him.

Dean Esmay noted this fear:

This paranoid fear of the vast Christian Right bogeyman that's going to destroy freedom is one of the odder paranoid quirks of the left in this country (sort of like the right's incessant fear in the 1990s that the United Nations was going to abolish the Constitution). Yes, there are lunatics on the religious right, but every party has its lunatic elements.

Dean is right, but allow me to note the hallmark of a bigot is his inability is to distinguish the lunatics from the rest.

Don't beleive the hate is out there. Well, another liberal bigot put it this way:

Can a people that believes more fervently in the Virgin Birth than in evolution still be called an Enlightened nation?

We come to a point: We cannot profile a Muslim at the airport because he might feel bad, but we can stereotype and criticize Christians from sea to shining sea (and mostly in the red states in-between) for beliefs they might hold. Why are they allowed to say whatever they want about Christians, and still be called enlightened? Why are we allowed to feel hated, and to be slurred against and have no one on either side worry about our freedom of religion, or freedom from hate speech? Wasn't John Kerry and John Edwards visiting black CHRISTIAN churches during their campaign? I guess it is ok to use Christians for votes on the left, but when things go against them to throw them to the lions.

I take a look throughout the net to see who is championing my rights, and the rights of other Christians to be free from hatred. Civilrights.org's Religious Freedom page? No, they are attacking Bush's faith-based initiatives today, and have a banner up proclaiming Bush's choices of judges are all extremists. Certainly the ACLU (AMERICAN CIVIL LIBERTIES UNION)

will stand up for me, right? I visit their Religious Liberty page and see the section I need: Religious Discrimination. Certainly they will understand. Nothing. Articles grace the page heralding a "backdoor attempt by some Members of Congress to permit tax-exempt religious organizations to engage in partisan political activities" and another "on behalf of Lubna Hussein, a Muslim woman who was told she must remove her religious garb in order to accompany her children at a municipal swimming pool" Worthy efforts sure, but how about defending my right to be free from, as they say:

assaults on the freedom to believe

I believe in Jesus Christ, and I have been called an ignorant fanatic. These are the some people who say I am a racist bigot for being a Christian. To the left our religion is a crutch, and proves we are ignorant. Personally my faith is not tied to whether they care, but this country was not founded so that in 2004 Christians can be told to go make their own country. Why? So they, the left, can be accepted by the world. I want no division between us and them. We should all be held in the same light as Americans. Our differences abound, however. The biggest difference between us is the way we try to change things and the way they try to change things. An example:

They want the right for gays to marry. They have the courts push it onto the populace. They have a mayor in San Francisco conduct illegal weddings. They push it onto the populace and expect us to accept it. We instead put it up to popular vote, and let the people decide. The will of the people triumph and they say we want a theocracy. I say they want a dictatorship, a big brother to tell us what is right or wrong for us.

So they hate us. I will allow the Bible to give my final word. How appropriate they might say:

And you will be hated by all for My name's sake. But he who endures to the end shall be saved.

Mark 13:13



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1 posted on 11/05/2004 11:35:14 AM PST by sonsofliberty2000
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To: sonsofliberty2000
Site Meter Christian BUMP!!!!!!!
2 posted on 11/05/2004 11:37:08 AM PST by KMC1
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To: sonsofliberty2000

Election 2004: Vote divided on Issues of Religion

3 posted on 11/05/2004 11:45:25 AM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: sonsofliberty2000
Election Reinforces U.S. Religious Divide
4 posted on 11/05/2004 11:50:15 AM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: sonsofliberty2000; father_elijah; nickcarraway; SMEDLEYBUTLER; Siobhan; Lady In Blue; attagirl; ...
Catholic and Christian Discussion Ping!

Please notify me via FReepmail if you would like to be added to or taken off the Catholic and Christian Discussion Ping List.

What do you think, guys and gals?

5 posted on 11/05/2004 12:33:59 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Salvation

Back in the 1980s, when I was Evangelical Protestant, stuff like this was being written about Christians. They've been trying to get us out of the political realm since 1980.


6 posted on 11/05/2004 12:48:06 PM PST by Convert from ECUSA (tired of shucking and jiving)
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To: sonsofliberty2000

Even to those who are not very religious find this kind of stuff offensive. Keep up the good work Dems. They are probably responsible for pushing people back into church (I know they are in my case)


7 posted on 11/05/2004 12:55:36 PM PST by escapefromboston (manny ortez: MVP)
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To: sonsofliberty2000
PRESIDENT BUSH WON CATHOLIC VOTE
8 posted on 11/05/2004 1:11:58 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Salvation

In looking at this map, it occurs to me that the Roman Catholic Church needs to do a better job of catechisis on the West Coast and New England. These "pseudo-Catholics" like John Kerry and Arlin Specter are prime examples of the consequences of neglecting to discipline or excommunicate the heretics and apostates in their midst. They grow up to be pro-abort, pro-homosexual, anti-God, DEMOCRATS!


9 posted on 11/05/2004 1:26:44 PM PST by torqemada ("Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!")
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To: torqemada

I thought Specter was a JINO, not a CINO.


10 posted on 11/05/2004 1:54:22 PM PST by wideawake (God bless our brave soldiers and their Commander in Chief)
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To: torqemada

Nah, it's not the Catholics.
The map shows the majority religion in each county, but it doesn't show you that in New England and California the real "religion" that the Catholic plurality has to contend with is secularism. So, there are more Catholics in those places, and they voted for Bush. But there are even more irreligious, unreligious and sacrilegious there who hate the Catholics as much as they do anyone else.


11 posted on 11/05/2004 2:13:48 PM PST by Vicomte13 (Auta i Lome!)
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To: Salvation
I LOVE THE BLAME GAME...THE DEMS STILL DON'T GET IT!

THANKS FOR THE PING

Proud To Be Part Of The Vast Right Wing Conspiracy

12 posted on 11/05/2004 4:36:42 PM PST by Smartass (BUSH & CHENEY 2004 Si vis pacem, para bellum - Por el dedo de Dios se escribió)
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To: sonsofliberty2000
Having read the Rise and Fall of the Third Reich while in Junior High, as an adult I have long thought of the Democrats as essentially Nazis without concentration camps:

gun control;
nature worship;
exalting animals and abasing humans;
control of the economy through control of corporations, rather than nationalization;
regulation and control of private speech (Democrats use hate crime legislation);
euthanasia of the infirm and "unwanted."

Lately, having heard the violent hatred towards Christians, I now expect that the Democrats, once they have sufficient control, will implement Canadian-style hate crime legislation that will either silence or criminalize Christians, with an extended program of holding/concentration camps for dealing with the unmanageable evangelicals. Whether they will eventually employ the equivalent of Zyklon B -- I cannot say.

13 posted on 11/05/2004 4:39:39 PM PST by DeaconBenjamin
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To: KMC1

save for further study


14 posted on 11/05/2004 5:01:35 PM PST by newberger (The amazing thing about communication is that it ever occurs at all!)
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To: newberger

I'm sorry, It has to be said. There is a big problem with Catholicism. The biggest thing we need to do, much bigger than turning blue states red, is evangalize the Catholics. When getting confirmed is the last day you go to church, there is a problem.


15 posted on 11/05/2004 8:09:52 PM PST by Jibaholic
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To: sonsofliberty2000
Here is how ignorance works: First, they put the fear of God into you-if you don't believe in the literal word of the Bible, you will burn in hell.

Presuming themselves to be wise, they have become fools.

Be not deceived, God is not mocked.

16 posted on 11/05/2004 8:41:39 PM PST by ladyinred (Congratulations President Bush! Four more years!)
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To: DeaconBenjamin
Lately, having heard the violent hatred towards Christians, I now expect that the Democrats, once they have sufficient control, will implement Canadian-style hate crime legislation that will either silence or criminalize Christians, with an extended program of holding/concentration camps for dealing with the unmanageable evangelicals. Whether they will eventually employ the equivalent of Zyklon B -- I cannot say.

There was a day when this kind of talk would have sounded crazy. That day is gone. God help us all.

17 posted on 11/05/2004 8:42:45 PM PST by monkfan (Mercy triumphs over judgement)
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To: sonsofliberty2000

Chris Matthews was just on MSNBC pretending to lament the lack of pro-life reporters, media types, etc. (in trying to explain why their predictions were so off).

That story is as old as the hills, and he would not be pointing it out now if Kerry had won. Matthews is truly a lowlife scumbag.


19 posted on 11/05/2004 9:06:07 PM PST by Tuco Ramirez (Ideas have consequences.)
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To: seamole
Yes, but this is a seperate issue. I feel the left's attempts to shove their crappy issues down our throats proves why we should not go down a similiar path. Storming an abortion clinic only proves us irrational, and subject to sinful behavior. I'm all for protesting, but not for getting violent. Our civilization is above that. Let the left go that way.

Patriot Paradox

20 posted on 11/05/2004 9:22:23 PM PST by sonsofliberty2000 (4 More Years!)
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