The anti-Catholicism of the "National Catholic Reporter"

[heyheyhey]

In my opinion, the NCR (different from the National Catholic Register and from the Catholic World Report) appears to be classic type of a wolf in sheep's clothing. It is the most anti-Catholic weekly publication that I know, and yet it continues pretending to be "Catholic." The evidence of NCR's anti-Catholic and anti-Christian agenda is somewhat camouflaged, so let it be dug up and brought to daylight in this thread.

- Why, and who cares? Under normal circumstances I couldn't care less, but very many American priests and religious read the NCR, and it has poisonously influenced a generation or two of priests. When we see the sorry state of affairs in our Church we should know, for our own protection, where the devil dwells. Many screwy things (most of all the disdain for the Teaching Magisterium) originated and/or have been, or continue to be, sponsored by the NCR.

There is only one FReeper, as far as I know, vigorously defending the NCR, so he is rare and dear - let's be respectful to him.

[heyheyhey]

widespread sense of pain, alienation and often anger resulted from a strong sense of women’s marginalization, struggle, disenfranchisement, powerlessness, irrelevance and lack of acknowledgement in the church

Translated to human language it means "the Church doesn’t ordain women priests and doesn’t allow abortions."

[heyheyhey]

I think the most important thing we can say about the folks at NCR is: they need our prayers most urgently.

Well said!

And let’s not forget the many souls affected by the NCR spew.
Priests and bishops especially.

[k omalley]

We have to be nice and respectful to our NCR loving Freeper and all new-age Catholic freepers. The new religion forum moderator said so.

[k omalley]

Uh, I might not be the sharpest tool in the shed but how is quantum theology going to help us form our consciences on the evil of abortion?

[B Knotts]

One bit of rich irony: it is largely the ecumenically-oriented liberal dissenters who have wanted to downplay veneration of Mary, in order to please non-Catholics.

[madprof98]

Long ago, I subscribed to NCR and read it "religiously." It occurred to me that nobody in their right mind would belong to the Church described in the newspaper, so I got out. Years later, much humbled, I returned. But I resolved never to read the thing again, and I make an exception only for the articles posted here. As I recall, a year ago January somebody posted a piece from NCR which endorsed abortion. After that, I don't see how anyone could justify subscribing to it.

[heyheyhey]

how is quantum theology going to help us form our consciences on the evil of abortion?

Darn hard to tell.
I've never heard of "quantum theology" but I'm pretty sure I know what it'd say about homosexuality ;)

[B Knotts]

Is "quantum theology" done at 88 mph?

[heyheyhey]

As I recall, a year ago January somebody posted a piece from NCR which endorsed abortion.

I believe the NCR to be the most anti-Catholic publication. Good thing you got out, but there are still many church people under their influence.

The pro-abortion piece, and I know the NCR is "pro-," would be valuable for this thread.

[heyheyhey]

Whatever that gal took must’ve been medicinal.

Oh, darn... I just broke my pledge to be charitable ;)

[dangus]

My gosh, it's amazing how heretical a guy can look! He has a smile that says, "Go ahead, divorce your wife, dump your kids, and let that 15-year-old homeless boy move into your bedroom."

[dangus]

Quantum theology?

That would be the belief that you can know either the positions of a heretic, or his momentum, but never both at the same time?

[american colleen]

LOL!

Bet she has sensible shoes on though. Only way you can tell she is a nun.

[BlackElk]

Obviously the content of the National (Pseudo)Catholic Reporter is a threat to the moral well-being of the fish it is designed to wrap and the birds whose cages it is designed to line. PETA will hear about this.

[BlackElk]

Yet more proof that the revolution is dead and has simply no stamina left to fall over.

[madprof98]

There was a whole issue about "choice" in NCR last January 17th. Here is just one example of what that issue included. The editors said they were interested in providing readers with alternatives to the standard Catholic teaching against abortion because "Maybe some of the voices in these stories, voices that don’t often get a hearing, convey wisdom that might allow us to get beyond the stalemate of old enmities." Among those "voices that don't often get a hearing," not surprisingly, is Frances Kissling of Catholics for a Free Choice.

[heyheyhey]

Thank you very much for finding it!

Here goes my NCR January 17, 2003 sampler of quotes,

Strategies to break abortion stalemate - EDITORIAL,

The bishops should find a way to work productively with pro-choice Catholics in high office. Politicians like Sens. Tom Daschle and Ted Kennedy and Rep. Nancy Pelosi should not face banishment from public events held on Catholic soil because of their public policy views, nor should they fear refusal at the Communion rail. There’s a lot of good work that can be done outside the abortion arena, and quiet respect, not burnt bridges, is both the prudent and productive course of action.

Medical advances enliven stalemated abortion debate by MARGOT PATTERSON,

Christine Gudorf, a professor of religious studies at Florida International University and the author of Body, Sex, and Pleasure: Reconstructing Christian Sexual Ethics, said there is increasing recognition among feminists that the basis for Roe v. Wade was made on the wrong grounds -- of privacy rather than a woman’s welfare.

A pro-choice Catholic, Gudorf came to her support for abortion rights through personal experience. Twenty-eight years ago she went to her doctor to get fitted for a diaphragm and was told she was six months pregnant. She had just adopted a terminally ill child and had been recently diagnosed with rheumatoid arthritis. Although Gudorf eventually decided to go forward with the pregnancy, she said the experience led her to support the pro-choice position.

“It would not have been right for me not to have a choice at that point. Making that choice was an important part of choosing who I was going to be. And that had to be my choice,” Gudorf said.

Back to the future: Post-Roe world would look a lot like today’s by Joe Feuerherd

“The loss of Roe would be a terrible thing,” said Catholics for a Free Choice president Frances Kissling, “but that does not mean that abortion would not continue to be legal in the United States.”

According to Kissling, “It would be extremely difficult for any state, no matter how conservative it might be … to make abortion largely illegal without facing the wrath of the citizens of that state.”

[polemikos]

Dude, where's my Church?

[heyheyhey]

Dude, where's my Church?

The express purpose of this thread to show that the NCR IS NOT the Church :)

[heyheyhey]

Priests' tough questions are a service to their people - January 9, 2004 EDITORIAL,

We’re not certain why this recent flurry of activity has taken place, but it is one of the healthiest signs we have observed in the priesthood in some time. In an institution aching for leadership, some priests are finding the courage to step up and, in a true example of pastoral service, to raise the deep concerns of the people they serve.

Perhaps no step has been as remarkable or courageous as that taken by 23 Chicago priests who signed a letter strongly objecting to “the increase in the use of violent and abusive language” in Vatican declarations directed at gays and lesbians.

Writing stupid diatribe against 2000 years old Catholic moral teachings is "flurry of activity" and "one of the healthiest signs" according to NCR.