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To: RightWhale
You seem to be the one to ask this of, does gravity create a problem with these experiments? I have assumed that it does. Those assumptions can be a pain sometimes.

As well as the fact, without gravity, a collider could be pretty much as big as we can technologically build it.
15 posted on 06/04/2003 8:08:30 PM PDT by Aric2000 (Join Grampa Dave's Team, $5 a month is all it takes, Come join, you know you want to!!)
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To: Aric2000
As well as the fact, without gravity, a collider could be pretty much as big as we can technologically build it.

What limits the size of an accelerator is usually the cost. In the case of the SSC, the size was determined by the physics requirements. In the case of the LHC, the limit was the construction cost. In the case of LEP, the lower bound limit to the size was the cost of powering the thing.

As you accelerate charged particles, they emit photons. Particles with a large charge-to-mass ratio, such as an electron, will emit photons with gamma-ray energies. This synchrotron radiation is constantly being shed by the beam, and that energy has to be replaced by the accelerator. The power radiated goes as E5/r2, where E is the beam energy and r is the radius of the accelerator. You can see that as the size gets larger, the cost of powering it actually goes down. (As the beam energy goes up, however, the cost goes dramatically up.)

23 posted on 06/04/2003 8:48:59 PM PDT by Physicist
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To: Aric2000
does gravity create a problem with these experiments?

The particles move so fast that gravity is a very low order factor, essentially zero. However, gravity has an effect on the apparatus itself. Everything has to be aligned to a gnat's whisker and gravity is constantly putting parts under tension and compression, so, no doubt, things move and have to be checked all the time and readjusted. In space there wouldn't be nearly the same forces aside from natural resonances, springiness, and thermal effects due to heating and cooling. Alignment will probably be a major problem in space, too.

38 posted on 06/05/2003 9:32:15 AM PDT by RightWhale (gazing at shadows)
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