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No (Surrender) Talks for Saddam's Son Odai, U.S. Says
5/23/03

Posted on 05/23/2003 6:38:15 PM PDT by kattracks

U.S. Military Official in Iraq Says No Surrender Talks Taking Place for Saddam's Son Odai

The Associated Press


BAGHDAD, Iraq May 23

American military commanders are making it clear that the Bush administration will accept nothing less than unconditional surrender from Saddam Hussein's eldest son and, by implication, his top advisers and Baath Party members still hiding in Iraq.

The commander of U.S. ground forces in Iraq, responding to a report that Odai Hussein might be seeking to surrender, said Friday he knew of no negotiations being held with envoys of Saddam's eldest son, and he insisted the U.S. military isn't seeking to cut any deals.

"Nobody's brought an offer from Odai to me, and I would facilitate his coming on in. But it would be unconditional," Lt. Gen. David McKiernan said at a security briefing in Baghdad.

"There are no negotiations," he said. "There is a lot of intel, there's a lot of reports that we follow up on on locations but there are no negotiations going on. Nor would there be."

McKiernan's comments came in response to a report Friday in The Wall Street Journal, which said Odai was considering surrendering to American forces. The newspaper cited "a third party with knowledge of the discussions."

U.S. officials said they have no information that would verify the claim.

Apprehending Odai Saddam Hussein, the ace of hearts in the coalition's deck of cards and No. 3 on its most-wanted list, would be a major victory for U.S. forces in postwar Iraq. Odai, known for being cruel and something of a loose cannon, oversaw the Saddam's Fedayeen fighting force.

Saddam himself remains unaccounted for, and it is uncertain whether he is alive. The same goes for his second son, Qusai. The Journal quoted the source as saying Saddam was alive and also in suburban Baghdad.

"From day one, and it continues today, we're searching for everybody on the blacklist, including his family," McKiernan said.

The Journal's "third party" said Odai had been reluctant to surrender because the U.S. government had taken a hard line and because he wanted to know what the charges against him would be. Odai also fears that Iraqi citizens will kill him if they find him, the Journal reported, saying he "may instead choose the safety of a U.S. prison."

Officials at the Baghdad headquarters of the Iraqi National Congress, which has previously taken officials into custody and handed them over to the United States, were not in their offices Friday afternoon, the Muslim sabbath.

This week, the U.S. military captured the most senior Baath Party leader yet Aziz Saleh al-Numan after reported efforts by his family to negotiate a surrender and to throw U.S. forces off track by publishing a death notice. He was No. 8 on Central Command's list.

U.S. officials have said al-Numan is one of nine top Iraqi leaders whom the United States wants to see tried for war crimes or crimes against humanity.

He was prominent in the quelling of the Shiite Muslim uprising in the immediate aftermath of the 1991 U.S.-led attack that ousted the Iraqi army from Kuwait. A Shiite, he had a reputation for cruel treatment of the rebels, accused by opposition groups of killing and torture.

Before the uprising, when he was governor of Najaf, he was accused of arresting, torturing and killing Shiite clerics during the 1980-88 Iraq-Iran war.

The capture of al-Numan brought to 25 the number of Iraqis from the top 55 list who are in coalition custody, by Pentagon count.




TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: oday; surrender

1 posted on 05/23/2003 6:38:15 PM PDT by kattracks
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To: kattracks
I saw that clip tonight. Enjoyed hearing him saying we would not negotiate. Makes sense to me. We'll find them sonner or later, or some Iraqis with ill-intents will. One way or another they're not feeling very safe.
2 posted on 05/23/2003 6:59:33 PM PDT by bart99
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To: kattracks
As Uday's attorney, I advise him to drink heavily.
3 posted on 05/23/2003 7:11:35 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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To: The KG9 Kid
As Uday's attorney, I advise him to drink heavily.

Cyanide would be a good start.
4 posted on 05/23/2003 7:13:44 PM PDT by darkwing104
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To: darkwing104
I would rather the Americans caught me if I were this animal, The Iraqis would torture the hell out of him. We could certainly make him talk by saying the Iraqis will get him if he doesn't.
5 posted on 05/23/2003 7:26:22 PM PDT by Pedrobud
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To: Pedrobud
I would rather the Americans caught me if I were this animal, The Iraqis would torture the hell out of him. We could certainly make him talk by saying the Iraqis will get him if he doesn't.
If he was to wind up dead we wouldn't have to deal with the lawyers and the Amnesty International clowns.

6 posted on 05/23/2003 8:28:09 PM PDT by darkwing104
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To: Pedrobud
Here's how we negotiate. You turn yourself in, or we'll come and get you. Take your pick.
7 posted on 05/23/2003 8:30:42 PM PDT by wimpycat ('Nemo me impune lacessit')
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To: kattracks
Face it, Uday, you're a puselanimous coward and most assuredly, soon to be quite DEAD. I would counsel you to face your fate like a man, but you are not a man, but an evil pestulence. Begone evil!
8 posted on 05/23/2003 8:39:34 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham
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To: kattracks
Odai also fears that Iraqi citizens will kill him if they find him, the Journal reported, saying he "may instead choose the safety of a U.S. prison."

How could that possibly be? We were told for months how much the Iraqis love Hussein and would rise up against any country that tried to remove him from them.

I guess most of the major media in America and Europe was wrong AGAIN!

9 posted on 05/23/2003 9:25:14 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: The KG9 Kid
As Uday's attorney, I advise him to drink heavily.

Methinks he's already downed the embalming fluids.

10 posted on 05/24/2003 3:20:42 AM PDT by steveegg (The only pork I don't like is government-issue.)
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To: Pedrobud
Heck, I'd feed Uday into a people shredder feet first just to be rid of him.
"Surrender? What surrender? He never surrendered to us.."
11 posted on 05/24/2003 2:10:43 PM PDT by Darksheare (Nox aeternus en pax.)
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To: steveegg
According to John Loftus, who reports almost daily on the Batchelor & Alexander radio show (WABC NY 10:00 PM - 1:00 AM), Saddam and his two sons were killed in the initial strike.
According to Loftus, this story about Uday was intended for disinformation purposes. It was broadcast in Arabic, strictly for the Arab audience and never intended to be translated and disseminated in the western press.
His reports seem to be quite accurate since most of them appear in the print media one or two days later.
He always concludes by saying, "Saddam is still dead."
12 posted on 05/24/2003 2:48:57 PM PDT by Marianne
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To: steveegg
To paraphrase The Eagles, "It's another Hemlock Sunrise..." ;-)
13 posted on 05/24/2003 8:26:56 PM PDT by buickmackane
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To: kattracks
I hope they capture this fool,will talk to no end.
14 posted on 05/24/2003 8:39:50 PM PDT by green team 1999
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