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1 posted on 05/06/2003 8:58:15 PM PDT by Destro
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read and study later
2 posted on 05/06/2003 9:15:13 PM PDT by LiteKeeper
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>>"They interpreted the Muslims as Ishmaelites, offspring of Hagar, condemned by God to hate and be hated by everyone."<<

That about sums it up in my book.
3 posted on 05/06/2003 9:53:09 PM PDT by Humidston (Do not remove this tag under penalty of law)
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"Their success was as much a measure of the settled and unwarlike dispositions of the mature and effete Roman provinces, which were surprised by the barbarian incursions, as of the Muslim warriors' own untempered ferocity."

How interesting. How deja vu.

4 posted on 05/06/2003 10:18:38 PM PDT by Savage Beast (A fool is more dangerous than a scoundrel.)
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"...preaching the unity of God, and putting to the sword the rebellious nations who worship any other god but him."

What irony! Little did poor Uqba know that he was not worshipping Him.

5 posted on 05/06/2003 10:22:02 PM PDT by Savage Beast (A fool is more dangerous than a scoundrel. Sounds like Uqba was quite dangerous.)
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To: Destro; *Clash of Civilizatio
Indexing.
6 posted on 05/06/2003 10:24:29 PM PDT by denydenydeny
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"the disjunction between religious and secular aspects of life in the west, and its openness to debate, ...questioning and change is precisely what traditional Islam lacks."

And this is one of the most important things the West has to offer the world.

7 posted on 05/06/2003 10:33:20 PM PDT by Savage Beast (The cosmos is God's holy scripture. His truth is there for all to read.)
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To: Destro
One for the archives. Thanks.
11 posted on 05/07/2003 4:47:10 AM PDT by MSSC6644
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Revelation 13

1 And the dragon stood on the shore of the sea. And I saw a beast coming out of the sea. He had ten horns and seven heads, with ten crowns on his horns, and on each head a blasphemous name.
2 The beast I saw resembled a leopard, but had feet like those of a bear and a mouth like that of a lion. The dragon gave the beast his power and his throne and great authority.

13 posted on 05/07/2003 4:58:49 AM PDT by Jeremiah Jr (Everybody goes to Rick's)
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Queen Isabella, probably the greatet female ruler of all time, was actually the one who convinced Ferdinand to consolidate their holdings in Spain. She saw the Muslims for what they truly were. Ferdinand, who plunged headlong into battle at the head of his troops sine he was 17, was more interested in maintaining control over Spain's territories in modern day Italy. She convinced him that it would be foolhardy to leave his rear unguarded. If not for her, who knows how long it would have taken to get rid of the Moors.

She was truly remarkable. She was one of the first to recognize a need for field hospitals and implement them, that whole Columbus thing, and yet if a button fell off of Ferdinands shirt she insisted on sewing it back on instead of having a handmaiden do it because she felt it was a wife's duty.

15 posted on 05/07/2003 7:00:47 AM PDT by MattinNJ
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