The Elizabeth Smart Official Thread

1 posted on 03/14/2003 11:36:44 PM PST by Admin Moderator

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2 posted on 03/14/2003 11:37:51 PM PST by CheneyChick

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Just imagine the number of threads if FR, as we know it now, was in place way back when........

3 posted on 03/14/2003 11:41:50 PM PST by hole_n_one

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RE: ES official thread listing
Thanks for making this.

4 posted on 03/14/2003 11:44:45 PM PST by aeronca

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What does this have to do with the Dixie Chicks? ;-)

(BTW, glad to have Elizabeth reunited with her real family)

5 posted on 03/15/2003 12:02:36 AM PST by CounterCounterCulture (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)

So why didn't she run? Family members say the teen-ager never had a chance to escape. "She said there was no way --"

She had two people with her at all times," family spokesman Chris Thomas said. But wait, wasn't Mitchell in the slammer for 6 nights in San Diego?

6 posted on 03/15/2003 12:06:37 AM PST by Partisan Hack

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She had two people with her at all times," family spokesman Chris Thomas said. But wait, wasn't Mitchell in the slammer for 6 nights in San Diego?

Yeah, I hear you about her opportunity to run, but when she answers the cops about her identity with "Thou sayest"? What could possibly motivate that other than that she had been disciplined to respond in that way. She's a young teenager under the exclusive influence of a false profit. The Bible teaches that many wiser than her will be so fooled.

7 posted on 03/15/2003 12:19:08 AM PST by SchuylerTheViking

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One of my primary daydreams is to live off the land in a place like the hills outside of SLC, Utah, and I have done this with great success a few times in my life. But my "Elizabeth likes living in Nature theory" comes to a crashing halt every time I look at those pictures of Mitchell and Barzee! If I saw either of them while I was living out there in the wilderness, I would have been runnin' outa there like a jackrabbit!

8 posted on 03/15/2003 12:21:55 AM PST by Born on the Storm King

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I think that the interesting question here is what makes some people, like Elizabeth, more vulnerable to brainwashing then others? Although it's been a few years since I was a fourteen year old girl, I can assure you that I would have escaped Mitchell unless I was under the influence of drugs. I am not blaming Elizabeth or her upbringing, I just wonder what the dynamics here were that made this possible.

9 posted on 03/15/2003 12:27:18 AM PST by SoCar

10 posted on 03/15/2003 12:27:58 AM PST by Cultural Jihad

11 posted on 03/15/2003 12:37:42 AM PST by stlnative

That was a Mormon bashing thread, not an Elizabeth thread.

12 posted on 03/15/2003 12:42:11 AM PST by Partisan Hack

"If it doesn't fit, you must acquit."

13 posted on 03/15/2003 12:55:37 AM PST by capitan_refugio

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Already Posted!

(sorry, I just couldn't help myself.. )

14 posted on 03/15/2003 1:14:06 AM PST by Jhoffa_ (Yes, there is sexual tension between Sammy & Frodo.)

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Thank you for posting this.

15 posted on 03/15/2003 1:20:45 AM PST by trussell (Note to self: No FReeping while sleeping)

I think that the interesting question here is what makes some people, like Elizabeth, more vulnerable to brainwashing then others?

I also wonder why some can be influenced so strongly and other not. Does anyone have any info on the psychology of the cult mentality? Who, i.e. what kind of people, does a Jim Jones succeed with? Forget the koolaid tragedy for the moment, who would pack up everything and move their family to Guyana? What are people seeking when that is the answer?

16 posted on 03/15/2003 2:55:04 AM PST by laredo44

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Something else to consider in the "why didn't she run" issue...having been married (but no more) to a woman who survived six years of sexual abuse from her stepfather, consider the line that he used on her: "If you tell anyone, I'll kill you and your sister."

17 posted on 03/15/2003 3:03:48 AM PST by Tennessee_Bob (Dieses sieht wie ein Job nach Dringlichkeitshosen aus!)

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...But she continued to lie about who she was when she was in the police car.

18 posted on 03/15/2003 3:07:01 AM PST by Partisan Hack

...what makes some people, like Elizabeth, more vulnerable to brainwashing...

Some people are trained to follow authority figures, spiritual leaders, etc. without question. Those people are probably more susceptible to mind control by the lunatics. Children should be taught to question anyone who tries to control them and have a reasonable basis for accepting control. Don't accept candy from strangers. Don't accept spiritual advice from raving maniacs. I know, that could put a some "preachers" out of business but it's still good advice.

19 posted on 03/15/2003 4:03:56 AM PST by FreePaul

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...But she continued to lie about who she was when she was in the police car.

And she was safe when? In other words, until she knew she was safe, that she knew she'd be reunited with her true family, she'd maintain the cover. I don't assign any blame to her.

20 posted on 03/15/2003 4:40:53 AM PST by Tennessee_Bob (Dieses sieht wie ein Job nach Dringlichkeitshosen aus!)

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