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FReepers: Who Wants to Help Savage?

Posted on 03/12/2003 9:40:29 AM PST by GulliverSwift

According to the New York Post, the perverts have been able to convince some advertisers not to want ads on Savage's show.

According to the Post, "Spokesmen for Dell, Casual Male and Idea Village said their commercials aren't slotted for specific shows but told The Post they've now asked time buyers to keep their ads off Savage's program."

This is intolerable. As Savage said in an earlier Post article:
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"I'm not Dr. Laura and I'm not going to lift my skirts and run,"

"If we let these bastards win, they will have elevated themselves to being a de facto national television censorship board,"

The article listed Dell computers as being afraid of the perverts, but according to Mother Jones, Michael Dell, CEO, contributed $200,000 to the Republican election committe, and according to NPR, "He is a friend and contributor to Republican Texas Gov. George W. Bush."

So who knows if the weeenies in the ad department even know what their boss thinks?

Another corporation is Designs Inc., which owns Casual Male.

The other corporation they mentioned was Idea Village.

These corporations have been convinced to not avertise on Savage's MSNBC show, which makes the perverts the "de facto national television censorship board."

Let these corporations know how you think.

Idea Village:
Idea Village
21 Law Drive, Fairfield, NJ 07004
(973) 808-7355

Casual Male:
David A. Levin
President and Chief Executive Officer
Designs, Inc.
(781) 444-7222, ext 6641

Dennis R. Hernreich
Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer
Designs, Inc.
(781) 444-7222, ext 6101

Dell Computer:
Dell Computer Corporation - Corporate Offices
Austin, TX 78701
(512) 338-4400

Dell Computer Corporation
8801 Research Boulevard, Austin, TX 78758
(512) 728-5656

Dell Computer Corporation
501 Dell Way, Round Rock, TX 78664
(512) 671-4751

Then there are e-mails:

info@CasualMale.com

comments@ideavillage.com

Investor_Relations_Fulfillment@dell.com

Here's the e-mail for Dell's spokesperson:
jon_weisblatt@dell.com

Of course you could always just contact the main Dell phone #s and e-mail address on their main pages.


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KEYWORDS: advertisers; glaad; perverts; savage; savageadvertisers
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1 posted on 03/12/2003 9:40:29 AM PST by GulliverSwift
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To: GulliverSwift
I am with you. The laid back attitude of conservatives of “buy their products” is why our ideals get run into the ground. This is a huge issue and groups like GLAAD manipulate companies even though they represent 1% of the population by mobilizing and sending emails and letters. Conservatives need to get off their asses and write these companies and tell them they are pissed. They need to crash the GLAAD website with emails letting them know they won’t be pushed around by a deviant organization that will deny Michael Savage his freedom of speech, but are mum on NAMBLA. DO SOMETHING PEOPLE!!!!!!
2 posted on 03/12/2003 10:21:15 AM PST by imd102
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To: GulliverSwift
I don't like the idea that "we" need help this guy get advertisers. If this guy is having troubel getting advertisers I believe it, his show is lame.
3 posted on 03/12/2003 10:43:45 AM PST by vastrightwc
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To: GulliverSwift
Good to know about Dell.......particularly since they had no problem with their Dell dude getting arrested for buying marijuana on the street. This past week he also engaged in an anti-war demonstration with the rest of the so called students.

Anyone considering purchasing a Dell should think of an alternative.

4 posted on 03/12/2003 10:44:50 AM PST by OldFriend
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To: GulliverSwift; All
Do GLAAD and NAACP company boycotts still work?
5 posted on 03/12/2003 10:49:33 AM PST by uncitizen
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To: uncitizen; All
What ever happened to the boycott of the state of South Carolina? (serious question)
6 posted on 03/12/2003 11:25:19 AM PST by uncitizen
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To: GulliverSwift
You response is reasonable... If a company pulls their advertising, do not do business with them.
7 posted on 03/12/2003 12:00:57 PM PST by 11th Commandment
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To: GulliverSwift
All 6 national advertisers for the Michael Savage show have pulled their ads: Procter & Gamble, Dell Computer Corporation, Casual Male, Idea Village, Cole Media Group and The Sharper Image. All 6 companies should be informed by Free Republic, ideally with a letter and signatures, that their products will suffer a boycott by Republicans nationwide until they respect the American principle of free speech. Conservatives likely constitute roughly 1/2 of their customer base. We will lose our resolve if he get into a battle of nuance with them (and quibble amongst ourselves)- our message should be simple. If you cave to liberal pressure groups and selectively censor conservative programming, you will be boycotted by Republicans nationwide, and this will pale in any comparison to a boycott by gays&lesbians. Your business will suffer as a result of your partisanship. For every quote they can pull on Savage, I can pull an equally racist/unprofessional quote from Nina Totenberg or other "journalists" in the liberal media. There is no excuse for this selective censorship. I'm going to start with contacting these companies by e-mail, but ideally we can get a petition going somehow. If you have any suggestions, do post them.

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*BTW, a quick study of the FREEP poster VastRightWC reveals he is a liberal troll.
8 posted on 03/12/2003 3:23:39 PM PST by jagrmeister
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To: jagrmeister
Sent all of them a letter. Thanks for the email addresses. I hope other Freepers take a few minutes to act on this one.
9 posted on 03/12/2003 3:31:36 PM PST by YoungKentuckyConservative
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To: vastrightwc
go post on the ACLU message boards and leave this one to Real Americans who absolutely love Mike Savage - having read his book I think he'd make a great President - Give'm hell Savage and Take Back America!!!!
10 posted on 03/12/2003 3:53:54 PM PST by mikemurphy111
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To: jagrmeister
If you cave to liberal pressure groups and selectively censor conservative programming, you will be boycotted by Republicans nationwide, and this will pale in any comparison to a boycott by gays&lesbians.

I got news for you.

I'm a Republican, and I think Savage is a nut case. His egomaniacal rantings get old quickly. And I'd wager there are lots of Republicans who feel the same way.

If I were Michael Dell, I would never have agreed to advertise on this fruitcake's show in the first place.

Savage is not a conservative; he's a populist with some fascist leanings. Why he's as popular as he is is beyond me.

But, then, I don't get Howard Stern either.

11 posted on 03/12/2003 4:02:23 PM PST by sinkspur
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To: uncitizen
"Do GLAAD and NAACP company boycotts still work?"

Seems like they do some times. Savage will be gone in 3 weeks and they will pay off the balance of his contract if its true that all national advertisers have bailed out on him.

I think there is a major difference between a handful of Freepers sending a terse email to a company threatening to personally boycott a product and a national organization's similar efforts. Your email will likely be read and promptly deleted by some low level staffer. GLAAD and the NAACP exist for this kind of crap, they have plenty of pony-tailed sniveling lawyers who get paid to do this all day long. They know what buttons to push with the advertisers to get the right response - lawsuit threats, threats of national ad campaigns against them, working deals with competitors for all GLAAD/NAACP members.

MSNBC, FOX, CNN are in business to create programs that bring a large audience to a group of advertisers. When either group doesn't show up the show is over.

12 posted on 03/12/2003 4:04:54 PM PST by Sunnyvale CA Eng.
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To: vastrightwc
I don't like the idea that "we" need help this guy get advertisers. If this guy is having troubel getting advertisers I believe it, his show is lame.

Oh please! You are now showing how little you know of this subject.

This kind of approach has been used for liberals for years (ala Jessie Hai Jackson). These groups started this movement BEFORE any advertisers even considered buying ads. One group vowed to keep him off the air "at any costs". In other words, we the people are just to plain STUPID to know what is best for us, so the liberals will decide what speech is free and what speech should be banned.

Here is how it should work: If the show gets good ratings, the show stays on the air. If the show gets poor ratings, the show gets cancelled.

Here is how it should NOT work: If the show (host) gives opinions that some do not agree with, do not let it on the air. If the show (host) agrees with everything liberals believe, then it can be broadcast.

Wow, talk about censorship and ignoring freedom of speech.

Wake Up!

13 posted on 03/12/2003 4:07:15 PM PST by technomage
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To: GulliverSwift
I think he's going to fail regardless. I honestly don't know how he held on to the radio sport for as long as he has. All the guy does is yell slogans and hang up on people. Hell, anyone can do that. What's so hard about that?

But, I don't want to see the fags run him out of town. That's not acceptable. No need to embolden the gay lobby any more than it is.

Unfortunately, when he does fail under his own weight, they will be righ tthere to take the credit for it. Call it a (ahem) "blow against homophobia!" and such things.

14 posted on 03/12/2003 4:09:41 PM PST by Jhoffa_ (Yes, there is sexual tension between Sammy & Frodo.)
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To: sinkspur
I agree with you.

But more to the point, where are conservative advertisers who should be flocking to Savage's show? Who needs P&G or Sharper Image or Dell? Where are the hair restoration products, libido products, business opportunity promoters that populate so many conservative shows to support this guy?

15 posted on 03/12/2003 4:10:54 PM PST by joesbucks
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To: joesbucks

Regardless of what he says, look at the way he says it.

He's mean and shrill, he's intentionally rude and will say anything to make the phones ring.

These companies have a great deal invested in developing, marketing and protecting their brand. I wouldn't blame them a bit if they don't want to risk it on Mike Savage.

Look at what happens when a brand deteroriates. The perceptions stick with a customer for a long time and many times even fly in the face of the facts.

Will you ever look at NIKE or "Martha Stewart" products the same?

16 posted on 03/12/2003 4:16:08 PM PST by Jhoffa_ (Yes, there is sexual tension between Sammy & Frodo.)
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To: technomage
Wow, talk about censorship and ignoring freedom of speech.

This is not "censorship." The government is not involved.

If some members of the free market put pressure on advertisers not to advertise on a particular show, what's wrong with that? Advertisers don't like controversy. And there's no more controversial personality than Michael Savage.

In addition, no more than 5% of the American public is even aware of Savage's show. Almost nobody watches MSNBC and even fewer Americans are going to sit down on a Saturday afternoon to view an obnoxious talk show.

Some people don't work on television. Alan Keyes didn't, Dr. Laura didn't, Phil Donahue didn't.

Savage won't either.

But, at least it might bring in a viewer or two more than MSNBC Investigates.

17 posted on 03/12/2003 4:17:11 PM PST by sinkspur
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To: sinkspur
As an example, the ACLU takes on a number of unpopular causes to defend a higher principle. Frankly, whether you care for Savage or not is immaterial. I don't listen to him and I agree he is loud and egomaniacal. The newsmedia is predominantly liberal and this is the second time that a rare entry of a conservative program has been sabotaged by a liberal pressure group. I am more of an economic conservative than I am a social conservative, but social conservatism deserves a voice. And frankly this tactic by the Left of labeling dissenting opinions as "hate-speech" as a means of excommunicating a whole group of people from civil society goes against the grain of free speech. It is the responsibility of conservatives to explain to advertisers that social conservatism is not equatable with "hatred". Insofar as companies are concerned with their bottom line, it is important for them to understand that there are greater consequences to offending the tens of millions of conservatives in this country than GLAAD.
18 posted on 03/12/2003 5:05:42 PM PST by jagrmeister
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To: jagrmeister
Insofar as companies are concerned with their bottom line, it is important for them to understand that there are greater consequences to offending the tens of millions of conservatives in this country than GLAAD.

Why would tens of millions of conservatives go to the wall for Michael Savage?

If this was about Rush Limbaugh, you bet, I'd join in.

But Michael Savage's conservative bona fides are unproven, IMO. He hasn't earned the benefit of my keystrokes in his defense.

It's precisely because companies are concerned with their bottom line that they will bolt at the first sign of controversy, especially controversy involving the gay community. And the majority of Americans don't want to hear about gay controversy either.

19 posted on 03/12/2003 5:30:17 PM PST by sinkspur
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To: Jhoffa_
Agreed. Many here on FR are doing exactly what we rail about when the libs come running to their "wing nuts" like Jesse Jackson and Slickmeister.

We hate it when they do it with their jackels, yet so many of us will swarm to protect ours.

20 posted on 03/12/2003 5:54:12 PM PST by joesbucks
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