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Swedes trash myth of refuse recycling
Telegraph.com.uk ^ | Filed: 02/03/2003) | By David Harrison, Environment Correspondent

Posted on 03/02/2003 5:46:12 PM PST by Leisler

Throw away the green and blue bags and forget those trips to the bottle bank: recycling household waste is a load of, well, rubbish, according to leading environmentalists and waste campaigners.

In a reversal of decades-old wisdom, they argue that burning cardboard, plastics and food leftovers is better for the environment and the economy than recycling.

They dismiss the time-consuming practice - urged on householders by the Government and "green" councils - of separating rubbish for the refuse collectors as a waste of time and money.

The claims, which will horrify many British environmentalists, are made by five campaigners from Sweden, a country renowned for its concern for the environment and advanced approach to waste.

They include Valfrid Paulsson, a former director-general of the government's environmental protection agency, Soren Norrby, the former campaign manager for Keep Sweden Tidy, and the former managing directors of three waste-collection companies.

The Swedes' views are shared by many British local authorities, which have drawn up plans to build up to 50 incinerators in an attempt to tackle a growing waste mountain and cut the amount of rubbish going to landfill.

One deputy council leader in the south of England said: "For years recycling has been held up as the best way to deal with waste. It's time that myth was exploded."

A spokesman for East Sussex council, which plans to build an incinerator at Newhaven, said: "It's idealistic to think that everything can be recycled. It's just not possible. Incineration has an important role to play."

The Swedish group said that the "vision of a recycling market booming by 2010 was a dream 40 years ago and is still just a dream".

The use of incineration to burn household waste - including packaging and food - "is best for the environment, the economy and the management of natural resources", they wrote in an article for the newspaper Dagens Nyheter.

Technological improvements had made incineration cleaner and the process could be used to generate electricity, cutting dependency on oil.

Mr Paulsson and his co-campaigners said that collecting household cartons was "very unprofitable". Used bottles and glass cost glass companies twice as much as the raw materials, and recycling plastics was uneconomical, they said. "Plastics are made from oil and can quite simply be incinerated."

The Swedes said that glass mixed with household waste improved the quality of slag residue and could be used for landfill. Tin cans could be removed by magnets and sent for recycling.

The Swedes stressed that the collection of dangerous waste, such as batteries, electrical appliances, medicines, paint and chemicals "must be further improved".

They added: "Protection of the environment can mean economic sacrifices, but to maintain the credibility of environmental politics the environmental gains must be worth the sacrifice."

The Environmental Services Association, which represents the British waste industry, agreed that the benefits of incineration had been largely ignored. Andrew Ainsworth, its senior policy executive, said: "This is a debate that we need to have in this country. Recycled products have got to compete in a global market and sometimes recycling will not be economically viable or environmentally sustainable.

"In remote areas, for example, it would not be viable to transport waste long distance for recycling. It would make more sense to burn it locally and use the process to generate electricity."

David Lidington, the Tories' shadow environment secretary, said: "We have to look at these claims closely. Incineration is cleaner than it used to be, although there is still public concern about it.

"Britain's recycling rates are lower than most other European countries, so we can certainly improve there, but recycling is not enough."

A spokesman for the Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs said incineration was "way down the list" because "it causes dangerous emissions, raises public concern and sends out a negative message about re-use".

In an attempt to reduce landfill the Government has told local authorities to recycle 30 per cent of waste by 2010, but admits that many councils are not on target.

A spokesman for Greenpeace said: "It's a nonsense to say incineration could ever be better than recycling. That would be a regressive step."

Sweden's Environmental Protection Agency said that it disagreed with the views of its former director-general. A spokesman said: "Recycling is a better option than incineration. It is a resource for new material. If you burn it, you cannot use it again.

"Incineration technology has improved, but you must separate waste or you will produce dangerous toxins."


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This has been out in the Libertarian, Hoover Institute, Reason Magazine, and others for at least ten years. However like public housing slums, this is someone's rice bowl and they vote and vote Democrat.
1 posted on 03/02/2003 5:46:13 PM PST by Leisler
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To: Leisler; dighton; Jeremiah Jr
"Incineration technology has improved, but you must separate waste or you will produce dangerous toxins."


2 posted on 03/02/2003 5:58:10 PM PST by Thinkin' Gal
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To: Thinkin' Gal
I guess you seperate the waste, and and and, put it in a landfill? (publik skool gardjooate)
3 posted on 03/02/2003 6:02:36 PM PST by Leisler
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To: Leisler
I guess you seperate the waste, and and and, put it in a landfill?

And then somebody watches it, e.g. Homer Simpson.

4 posted on 03/02/2003 6:10:02 PM PST by Thinkin' Gal
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To: Leisler
A spokesman for Greenpeace said: "It's a nonsense to say incineration could ever be better than recycling. That would be a regressive step."

It would be a regressive step from the point of view of a socialist who is against all technological progress.

A spokesman for the Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs said incineration was "way down the list" because "it causes dangerous emissions, raises public concern and sends out a negative message about re-use".

The key to burning waste cleanly is to eliminate things like batteries and aerosol cans from the waste, have the proper mixture of burnable waste, then mix the waste with coal for burning.

The proper ratio of coal to waste is critical for a clean burn.

The amount of waste generated in the western countries is far to high to ever realistically think that it could all be reused (or even a large fraction. The logistical problems of collection and separation of the different types of waste is just to complex with present technology.

Just the different types of plastics alone that would need to be separated in order to be usefully recycled boggles the mind. The amount of news print thrown away each day would be impossible to collect and recycle.

5 posted on 03/02/2003 6:14:34 PM PST by Pontiac
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Environmentalists, once you get a couple of drinks in them, will admit frankly that recycling is largely a psychological exercise, and that the purpose of recycling is to get people to think about the amount of material they consume, so they will modify their consumption behavior. But the actual recycling itself is a net negative for the environment.

Then they'll sober up and deny the whole thing.
6 posted on 03/02/2003 6:34:35 PM PST by gridlock (tag-line)
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To: gridlock
Recycling serves another useful social purpose. Neighbors can find out how much other neighbors drink just by walking the dog the morning of trash day. LOL.
7 posted on 03/02/2003 6:43:34 PM PST by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: Thinkin' Gal
Bump for future laughs and for forwarding to my city council.
8 posted on 03/02/2003 6:46:06 PM PST by Bernard Marx
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To: gridlock
But the actual recycling itself is a net negative for the environment.

Every time I see the huge recycling garbage truck drive by my house I figure this out all over again.

Instead of one truck making the rounds you have two. That truck takes the waste to a recycling collection site where the waste must be further separated. Machines must then shred the waste and bale or load it in to containers. More often than not the waste hauler must then pay for the disposal of the waste.

Last I heard there is no market for used news print and it was all being sent to land fills.

9 posted on 03/02/2003 6:50:59 PM PST by Pontiac
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To: gridlock
Environmentalists, once you get a couple of drinks in them, will admit frankly that recycling is largely a psychological exercise, and that the purpose of recycling is to get people to think about the amount of material they consume, so they will modify their consumption behavior. But the actual recycling itself is a net negative for the environment.

Interesting take. I thought it was an exercise in raw power. "Hey, I can't do anything useful, but I can make millions of people engage in a pointless ritual to salve my fragile ego. An even if I can't afford a 32" TV, I can make you pay a recycling fee when you dump your old 21" model."

Alternately, they are trying to condition us to get used to being poorer. Which is more or less the same thing you said.

10 posted on 03/02/2003 6:56:36 PM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets
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To: Pontiac
"...and sends out a negative message about re-use."

But if reuse really is harmful to the environment -- if it causes us to expend more resources than we save and doesn't produce anything unique or useful -- then wouldn't reuse be negative? And if it is negative, then wouldn't "sending out a negative message" about it just mean that you're telling the truth about it?

Oh wait, I forgot: the truth is the sworn enemy of the current environmental movement. Now I understand. Never mind...

11 posted on 03/02/2003 7:03:01 PM PST by HHFi
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To: Pontiac
The amount of waste generated in the western countries is far to high to ever realistically think that it could all be reused

It's ALL reused. Just give it a little time, and nature will recycle EVERY BIT of trash. We're just too impatient.

Our family stores all our recyclables in a huge vault east of the Springs. Many call it a landfill, but in reality it is just a very large, lined compost pile.

12 posted on 03/02/2003 7:46:27 PM PST by Balding_Eagle
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To: Pontiac
I had a Civil Engineering Prof as a neighbor back in the late seventies. He did some work in Braintree, MA where they had
a waste-to-energy plant. At that time, they didn't check input, so they ended up producing very concentrated and toxic ash.

Likewise, Burlington, VT used wood chips to fire a plant. The source soil of the trees contained cadmium. The trees absorb that metal, so the ash was very high in cadmium.

13 posted on 03/02/2003 7:49:19 PM PST by Calvin Locke
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To: Leisler
"Tin cans could be removed by magnets and sent for recycling. "

Cans haven't been made from tin for about 50 years or so, and tin is not magnetic.

L

14 posted on 03/02/2003 7:57:42 PM PST by Lurker (When I want your opinion, I'll beat it out of you.)
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To: Calvin Locke
The trees absorb that metal, so the ash was very high in cadmium.

Most of the fly ash from the burning of coal is also high in heavy metals. As long as it is disposed of properly, not a problem.

15 posted on 03/02/2003 8:00:42 PM PST by Pontiac
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To: Thinkin' Gal
I don't see the flux capacitor.

Nik
16 posted on 03/02/2003 8:04:23 PM PST by Nik Naym
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To: Leisler
Technological improvements had made incineration cleaner and the process could be used to generate electricity, cutting dependency on oil.

Technically that is recycling the energy content of trash.

17 posted on 03/02/2003 8:48:36 PM PST by Paleo Conservative (This space left intentionally blank.)
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To: Thinkin' Gal; Leisler; dighton; Jeremiah Jr
Within the last year there was an article on FR, from Tampa if I'm not mistaken, wherein the town was found to be collecting the recycling separately and then paying a fee to deposit it at the dump, alongside the trash

I mentioned this to my two brothers at a family gathering, and their eyes lit up...

One brother lives in a condo. He and his neighbor were on the balcony fooling around with a new digital camera one day when the garbage truck pulled up and collected the contents of the dumpster. It set that dumpster down and picked up the one next to it, diligently filled to the top with recyclables. They were in the association office showing their photos before the truck left the lot; the garbage company no longer picks up separate dumpsters, and the association no longers pays $250 for the recycling dumpster each month...

My other brother is physician, and had some marvelous stories about the injuries suffered at 'transfer stations', where Cook County (Chicago) pays to have trash sorted into recycling... it seems we're on the verge of 3rd world diseases with some of what goes on in these places

18 posted on 03/02/2003 9:36:30 PM PST by IncPen
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
I thought it was an exercise in raw power.

I was (regretably) involved with a NJ State program where they were trying to get employers to force employees to carpool with a variety of incentives and penalties, all designed to get the average vehicle occupancy of cars during rush hour to 1.3 persons.

During the training for this, the people who would be tasked with implementing this program rightly pointed out that most people would see this government interference as an unacceptable infringement on their rights. The trainer said that most people would accept the interference if you use the example of recycling, and how that is a government program, but it is for the greater good.

I was sceptical, but when I ran into problems with my drivers, I used the recycling line, and it worked like a charm. A little scary, really.

19 posted on 03/03/2003 3:56:24 AM PST by gridlock (tag-line)
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To: Leisler
to read later
20 posted on 03/03/2003 4:04:53 AM PST by tje
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