Javanese Fossil Skull Provides New Insights into Ancient Humans

Scientific American ^ | 28 February 2002 | Sarah Graham

[blam]

"It will take many more data points to make a credible case for a genuine commonality of the cultures."

LOL. You mean like the Egyptian Cocaine Mummies

"She discovered that the body of Henut Taui contained large quantities of cocaine and nicotine. The surprise was not just that the ancient Egyptians had taken drugs, but that these drugs come from tobacco and coca, plants completly unknown outside the Americas, unheard of until Sir Walter Raleigh introduced smoking from the New World, or until cocaine was imported in the Victorian era."

[PatrickHenry]

the ancients were able to make every single pyramid on Earth to point 180 degrees away from the center of the planet.

You mean straight up? Like perpendicular to the ground?

[general_re]

No because we can see the actual relationships, which do not require just-so inference.

Ah. And what is the relationship between a woodpecker and a fruit bat? Be sure to explain your reasoning...

[PatrickHenry]

You mean like the Egyptian Cocaine Mummies

Another data point. A biggie. Outranks the pyramid shape. Donno what to make of it. Still, there should be more evidence. Perhaps it will turn up in due course.

[Doc Savage]

If that isn't Carville's skull, I'll eat my hat!

[gitmo]

Precisely. Mind-boggling, isn't it?

[PatrickHenry]

Mind-boggling, isn't it?

Yes! And all their circles had 360 degrees. Ponder that one.

[blam]

Egyptian Style Pyramids Discovered In A Remote Region Of Uzbekistan

[gitmo]

Wow! Has anyone measured all of them?

[Godebert]

"If that isn't Carville's skull, I'll eat my hat!"

A common mistake. Below is an actual photo of a Carvillian skull.

[CobaltBlue]

Awesome! Truly. It really stimulates the imagination.

I would love to have a poster of it.

Guess there are companies that would print it from the digital image. Kodak? Wonder if Costco does stuff like that.

[CobaltBlue]

Did that story pan out? Pravda is terribly unreliable, which I know you know, so that's why I am asking.

[PatrickHenry]

Egyptian Style Pyramids Discovered In A Remote Region Of Uzbekistan

Enough! If you keep this up I'll be a crop circle believer.

[blam]

"Did that story pan out? Pravda is terribly unreliable, which I know you know, so that's why I am asking."

Haven't seen another mention of it...so, I don't know.

[blam]

"Enough! If you keep this up I'll be a crop circle believer."

Nah. I don't do crop circles, UFO's, or any of the paranormal crap.

[AndrewC]

And what is the relationship between a woodpecker and a fruit bat?

The obvious, none.(i.e. in a familial relationship, they both fly, breathe oxygen etc. etc.)

[general_re]

The obvious, none.(i.e. in a familial relationship, they both fly, breathe oxygen etc. etc.).

None? No relationship at all, save that they have some common elements or attributes?

Alas, nobody has yet posted the complete mitochondrial genome for woodpeckers yet. But they have for chickens, which I assume also have no relationship to bats. How, then, do we explain that chicken mitochondrial DNA is more similar to bat mitochondrial DNA than it is to mosquito mitochondrial DNA? How do common elements account for the degree of similarity? Don't the relative similarities suggest that chickens and bats are more closely related than chickens and mosquitos? Dare we posit the relative distance from common ancestors here, or is there some other way to account for the comparisons?

But don't take my word for it - take the accession numbers and do the pairwise BLAST yourself:

Gallus gallus (domestic chicken) - NC_001323
Artibeus jamaicensis (Jamaican fruit-bat) - NC_002009
Anopheles gambiae (African malaria mosquito) - NC_002084

[Ciexyz]

Hmm, interesting.

[AndrewC]

How, then, do we explain that chicken mitochondrial DNA is more similar to bat mitochondrial DNA than it is to mosquito mitochondrial DNA?

The "same" way we explain that bat mitochondrial DNA is more similar to chicken mitochondrial DNA than chicken mitochondrial DNA is to bat mitochondrial DNA or that bat mitochondrial DNA is more similar to mosquito mitochondrial DNA than chicken mitochondrial DNA is to mosquito mitochondrial DNA.

And I wrote familial in the common sense of family.

[general_re]

The "same" way we explain that bat mitochondrial DNA is more similar to chicken mitochondrial DNA than chicken mitochondrial DNA is to bat mitochondrial DNA or that bat mitochondrial DNA is more similar to mosquito mitochondrial DNA than chicken mitochondrial DNA is to mosquito mitochondrial DNA.

Really? Why should it be so? Why are chickens and bats more similar to each other than to mosquitos, especially since we're talking mitochodrial DNA, and not the genome of the organisms themselves?