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Anti-war Protests Anger U.S. Troops Inside Kuwait
The Detroit News | Tuesday, February 18, 2003 | M.E. Sprengelmeyer

Posted on 02/18/2003 7:26:58 AM PST by BOBTHENAILER

Some see America’s patriotic mood waning.

Campujairi, Kuwait – The peace protesters might as well be marching right under the tank barrels.

U.S. troops amassed in the Kuwaiti desert couldn’t avoid news of anti-war protests that swept the globe over the weekend, and it is making some angry, defensive, fired-up and anxious.

They see scattered news reports of opposition to a possible war against Iraq, but the hardest-hitting bulletins come in phone calls home to worried wives and loved ones, said Sgt. 1st Class Victor Oravec, 41, of Fort Knox, Ky., of the U.S. Army’s 3-7 Cavalry.

“They’re saying, ‘Why are we over here when everyone’s over here saying we shouldn’t be?’” Oravec said.

“They hear it. They bring it up to me, and I squash it by keeping them busy, reminding them why they’re here,” Oravec said, just before leading his tank maintenance unit in an all-night training exercise across the Kuwaiti desert.

Many of the soldiers who might be called to fight against Iraq were too young to remember the emotional protests that marked the end of the Vietnam War. Many had not even been born.

Still, some say they take the anti-war protests personally – questioning the jobs they do and their boss, President Bush.

“They get down,” said Oravec, a veteran of the 1991 war against Iraq. “That’s when I come around, try to get them work to do. That’s the only thing I can think of to keep their minds off home and what their wives are telling them.”

Capt. John Turner, 26, of Colonial Heights, Va., whose father was a med-evac pilot for the Army in Vietnam, said soldiers are not decision-makers and can’t afford to get distracted from their training.

“I’m not in this line of work for political reasons. I didn’t come here to be a politician,” Turner said.

Still, he’s especially angry about opposition at the United Nations from France, a NATO ally.

“How would they feel if it was the Eiffel Tower that got hit into (on Sept. 11)?” he asked.

The troops see a possible war against Iraq as part of the ongoing war on terrorism, as the Bush administration targets alleged weapons of mass destruction that could fall into the hands of terrorists.

Protesters call that an unfounded or unproven claim being used to justify a war to control more of the Middle East’s vast oil reserves.

The “No blood for oil” slogan was used in opposition to the 1991 war, too. But back then, in the war to liberate Kuwait from Iraqi invaders, the protests did not seem as widespread and the troops did not take them so personally, Gulf War veterans said.

“That’s their right to protest as long as they know that’s their opinion, not ours,” said 1st Sgt. Stephen Edgerton, 36, a Gulf War veteran from Blackshear, Ga.

“When you’re younger, you’re a little more eager to go out and pick a fight with somebody,” Edgerton said. “With age, you’re not as quick to jump into things without thinking them out first.”

But for soldiers, he said, the bottom line is simple: “I support my Commander in Chief. That’s my job.”

Pvt. Wesley Carr, 23, of Virginia Beach, Va., said soldiers are the last ones who want to rush into unnecessary wars.

“I can understand why they want to protest, because they don’t want any harm to come to us. But a lot of them don’t understand,” Carr said. “I hope, like everyone else, that it does end peacefully. But if it doesn’t and we have to go to war, we have to think of the safety of the United States and all these people here.”

Privately, some soldiers wonder if the patriotic mood and pro-military spirit in the wake of the Sept. 11 attacks has evaporated.

With all its soldiers and high-tech war fighting machines, the U.S. military would not have had all its recent success if the soldiers didn’t get so much support from the public, Edgerton said.

“They don’t have to support what’s happening,” he said, “but at least support the soldiers”

Iraq Update
1st U-2 Mission: Iraq reported the first flight by an American U-2 surveillance plane Monday in support of the U.N. inspection mission, marking another concession by the Baghdad government in hopes of staving off a U.S. –led attack. The flight lasted four hours.

Turkey Delays:
Turkey’s prime minister on Monday ruled out a parliamentary vote to allow tens of thousands of U.S. combat troops on its territory until Turkish and U.S. officials agree on the conditions of the deployment.


TOPICS: Breaking News
KEYWORDS: antiamericanpos; appeasementweanies; appeaseniks; democrats; ingrates; janefondalovers; jerks; marxists; saddamsbuddies; supportourtroops; traitors
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To: Sparta
When the war starts and our troops start getting killed, some folks may declare a personal war on Saddam's 5th column on the home front.
181 posted on 02/18/2003 10:59:27 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.enemiesforeignanddomestic.com)
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To: colorado tanker

Does bring back the memories, doesn't it? We heard a lot of that "I support the toops but not the war" B.S. back then, too.

I wasn't around for Vietnam, but I remember seeing old footage of the anti-war traitors back then. I also recall similar sentiments that I expressed during Clinton's war of aggression in Kosovo. I wonder where these jackasses were during the Kosovo War. (Cheering on Sick Willy.)

182 posted on 02/18/2003 11:00:21 AM PST by Sparta (Statism is a Mental Illness)
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To: rdb3; Khepera; elwoodp; MAKnight; condolinda; mafree; Trueblackman; FRlurker; Teacher317; ...
Support our troops bump & ping!

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If you want on (or off) of my black conservative ping list, please let me know via FREEPmail. (And no, you don't have to be black to be on the list!)

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183 posted on 02/18/2003 11:01:05 AM PST by mhking ("The word is no. I am therefore going anyway..." --Admiral J.T. Kirk)
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To: Travis McGee
I know many that want to now.(If I say anymore, I'll be banned.)
184 posted on 02/18/2003 11:01:35 AM PST by Sparta (Statism is a Mental Illness)
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To: Sparta
I wonder where these jackasses were during the Kosovo War

I guess they were too busy giving and getting Lewinsky's to notice there was a war on.

185 posted on 02/18/2003 11:03:07 AM PST by colorado tanker (raise the bounty on weasels)
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To: BOBTHENAILER
I came within an eyelash of fisticuffs on Saturday here in SD at the gate of the main Naval base, where we had a support our troops rally at the same time the scum marched against the military. They actually marched right down the street to the base, waving huge Palestinean and "one world" blue earth flags. Some wore masks, like Mexican guerrillas, one A-hole had a huge Palestinean flag and a black and white Arafat scarf around his shoulders.

That is who we are up against.

When the troops are going into battle, we must take the battle to Saddam's 5th column, and NOT allow them to control the streets, or the media coverage. I am thinking of lots of creative disruption tactics, perhaps sacks of floour thrown over them, and some things I keep to myself.

186 posted on 02/18/2003 11:04:44 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.enemiesforeignanddomestic.com)
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To: Sparta
Yeah I heard. Makes you want to puke doesn't it?
187 posted on 02/18/2003 11:07:45 AM PST by SAMWolf (To look into the eyes of the wolf is to see your soul)
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To: BOBTHENAILER; .30Carbine
We support our troops!!!
We support the President!

TigersEye - .30Carbine

188 posted on 02/18/2003 11:08:09 AM PST by TigersEye (Let the liberals whine -- it's what they do.)
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To: Squantos
"write to the presstitutes abour equal time"

I was watching coverage of the protests on the abc cbs nbc channels. It was so slanted. First of all, they only showed interweiws with people who claimed to have a son or daughter in the military. Then they kept saying over and over that "many people are protesting for the 1st time" or "they've never protested before". They down played coverage of the damage peaceniks did in the different cities. Any one watching would assume that a majority of Amercians and people around the world are against the war. NOTHING was said about who organized the protestests. There was no mention of THE LARGE NUMBER OF SOCIALISTS AND COMMUNISTS at the rallies. Nothing was mentioned about these groups being the same people who protested our going to Afghanistan after we were attacked 9/11. (I wanted to slap the TV several times while watching this. Lord forgive me, but I hate these stupid idiot hippy wanna-be's) .

I'm sending letters to all the networks that did this. IT IS NOT FAIR THAT THEY SLANT THE COVERAGE LIKE THIS. THE AMERICAN PEOPLE HAVE A RIGHT TO KNOW WHO THESE PROTESTERS REALLY ARE. I mean many of them are NOT main stream America. The rally's are organized by radicals. People should know that. The press is delibrately distorting the picture AND IT CAN HURT OUR MILITARY PEOPLE, JUST LIKE IT DID IN VIET NAM. The reason Viet Nam vets were treated so badly when they returned home is BECAUSE OF THE WAY THE PRESS (with help from "the stars"like Jane Fonda) BIASED THE COVERAGE OF THE WAR. Let's not let them get away with it again

A plea to President Bush: Mr. President you can help in this situation because you have the bully pulpit. The problem is that alot of people don't have cable and are subjected to this biased reporting and mis-information every night. I thik it would be a good thing if you could again adress the nation (in prime time) and again repeat the last part of your State of the Union adress about Iraq , its brutality, and the huge list of chemical and biological things that are un-accounted for, and that you don't want to wait until some one unleashes one or more of these on our population. Apparently alot of our people had their fingers in their ears when you were adressing this problem. SO repeat it(In prime time on all the channels, not just cable) again, and again and again and again, even if you have to adress the nation every week. (or maybe you could put your message in an ad and run it on mainstream channels).Perhaps PM Tony Blair could do something similar in England. I would also like to see President Bush ask the American people to show support for our troops by flying their flags and /or wearing flag pins.

189 posted on 02/18/2003 11:09:04 AM PST by fly_so_free
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To: fly_so_free
Excellant post ! Stay on em !

Stay Safe !!

190 posted on 02/18/2003 11:12:58 AM PST by Squantos (RKBA the original version of Homeland Security .....the one proven method that works !)
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To: SAMWolf
Yep. But it also does a great service, exposing the Saddam and anti-war Marxist alliance.
191 posted on 02/18/2003 11:13:15 AM PST by Sparta (Statism is a Mental Illness)
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To: Michael81Dus
"Support British troops also BUMP!
Their mission is even harder, their people is opposed to the war, unlike in the US. Let´s not forget the British forces!!"

You are right. At least the majority of Americans support President Bush and PM Blair. Unfortunately, the Brits support Saddam.

(You have (had) G. Bush, J. Cash, B. Hope & S. Wonder - we have Schröder: no cash, no hope, no wonder)

I love your tagline. It's very creative, but it sounds so sad.

Keep your chin up!;o)

192 posted on 02/18/2003 11:16:30 AM PST by dixiechick2000 (I heart "New" Europe!)
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To: JohnHuang2
Thanks for the ping!

BTTT!

193 posted on 02/18/2003 11:18:02 AM PST by dixiechick2000 (I heart "New" Europe!)
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To: BOBTHENAILER
I trust someone in the Foxhole knows how to get these to our troops.  We were in Sacramento and San Francisco for a "Support our Troops and Commander in Chief" Tribute in the faces of the Anti-American protests.  The banner you see in the bottom stretched some fifty feet in length and became a human shield between patriots and the unwashed. They other camp shoved signs in our face reading "BETTER KILL AMERICAN TROOPS THAN INNOCENT IRAQI CHILDREN" and "ASSASSINATE BUSH". Two arrests were made of protesters assaulting our group.

More coverage: The Patriot Defenders Network patriotwatch.com

 

194 posted on 02/18/2003 11:19:24 AM PST by comwatch
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To: Sparta
THE BROCHURE ON IRAQ TO COUNTER THE PEACENIKS AND TO INFORM REAL AMERICANS ON THE REAL REASONS WHY THE US AND OUR ALLIES ARE GOING TO IRAQ ... TO LIBERATE IRAQ!

SUPPORT OUR TROOPS!
Right Click on picture and then select "Save Target As"

195 posted on 02/18/2003 11:21:24 AM PST by HighRoadToChina (Never Again!)
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To: grumpdawg485
What I hope is that you can support the right of the war protesters to express themselves, while still disagreeing with their message.

Is there any point at which you think such demonstrations border on anti-American? If we are in a full-fledged war, isn't aid and comfort being given to the military via the news media? After all, our Founding Fathers could never imagined TV or the internet (taking a page from the anti-gunners), so is there a line?

What about the heads of cities and towns trying to present their opposition to the White House? I recall no such votes being held to poll the citizens of their respective minuciaplities prior to their action. Perhaps not treasonous, but it's certainly a misuse/abuse of their position....

196 posted on 02/18/2003 11:24:24 AM PST by technochick99 (Self defense is a basic human right. http://www.2ASisters.org)
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To: JohnHuang2
GWB and the little band of freedom fighters will disarm Saddam and all other despot tyrants, very soon!

Be Ever Vigilant!

Be Well - Be Armed - Be Safe - Molon Labe!

Let's Roll!
197 posted on 02/18/2003 11:27:59 AM PST by blackie
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To: BOBTHENAILER
Sounds to me like the dems/libs are going overboard trying to get a bad result in the war - which is their goal.

That may seem like a stretch, but what better way to make the military feel they shouldn't be there - get them distracted from their job - make them feel like they're being used by govt, than by holding marches which appear to be against them.

How dispicable is that - how un-American is that - how TREASONOUS is that.
198 posted on 02/18/2003 11:32:31 AM PST by CyberAnt ( Yo! Syracuse)
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To: NYC GOP Chick
I take the 9/11 attacks *very* personally, and I have an instant loathing for those who try to pretend that it didn't happen, that it was our fault or that we're the aggressors.



I'm with you. The people attacked on September 11 were all WORKING people! They represented one of the characteristics that makes America the great country that it is. I will never get over my visceral repugnance of anyone who tries to trivialize those attacks or to blame them on us.
199 posted on 02/18/2003 11:33:32 AM PST by maica
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To: piasa
What are you saying, that the reporter and the editor wouldn't print the frank, blunk, explative delated opinion of some of the troops? Just the ones who were unsure?

Shocked, shocked I say.
200 posted on 02/18/2003 11:38:19 AM PST by Leisler
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