Free speech costs money, lots of it Today's anti-war march could cost $85,000, organizers say

SF Chronicle ^ | 2/16/03 | David R. Baker, Chronicle Staff Writer

[Drango]

Deep in the preparation frenzy for today's anti-war march, organizer Andrea Buffa counted the latest checks she had cut.

About $1,400 for the company handling trash cans. An additional $5,354 for the portable toilets. And $10,000 for part -- not all -- of the sound system.

[Drango]

They call this reporting....Tell us again where the money comes from?

[AEMILIUS PAULUS]

At least funding is being discussed. This is the real issue: In whose financial interest are these mobs brought forth?

[Congressman Billybob]

This is a beginning on the reporting of this basic subject. It does not include the pre-rally expenses -- the offices that recruit people, the phones, stationery, stamps. Most important, it does not include the busses and expenses to bring people in.

And it does not, obviously, give the names of the directors of this generous foundation, nor the sources of a penny of the pre-rally expenses. In short,we knowfar less about the politics of the money for any anti-war rally than we know about the money politics of the lowliest candidate for Congress who raises a mere $20,000 and has zero chance to be elected.

But at least this is a start -- the first time the lamestream media has ever sought to put numbers on the financial support of these anti-war (actually anti-American) rallies.

Congressman Billybob

[Drango]

The primary radio support, mobilization and advertising came from KPFA, KPFA a Pacifica TAX funded, PUBLIC RADIO station.

[JoJo Gunn]

"The left is going to be there, but this is a movement of the American people who are opposed to the war...."

Orwellian sewage. What else BUT the Left was there?

[expatpat]

What do we know of Vanguard and its connections to Marxist organizations?

[dandelion]

Here's an article that says the underwriting organization for Vanguard is the New York Based "New World Foundation" . Let's find out more about them, shall we?

[GOPJ]

The scum doth protest too much in this piece... The big money and organization are not being financed by passing the plate.

It's time to follow the money... let's get the real story.

[Ragtime Cowgirl]

I don't buy the "innocent" journalist act. The press knows who's helping fund these events...and the press is helping with free publicity and fundraising "ads" like this one. The America-haters know that OUR leftist press will not print the truth - just as OUR press covered for the Communists behind the anti-American protests in the 60s and 70s.

Press, start here, spend one hour, then try to defend your support of these people in the face of facts! Peacenik contacts, events.

On Sunday, Feb.16, talk show thread

C-Span caller: An Iraqi visiting in England, who called in to say if his countrymen had been allowed to march yesterday, they would have overwhelmingly outnumbered the peace marchers across the world. He said their message would have been an SOS to the world, to save them from Saddam. He says those who say this war is about oil are ignorant, that Iraq oil has already been mortgaged to Russia and France. He said the Iraqi people would never defend their oil fields, because it doesn't belong to them, it belongs to Saddam.

12 posted on 02/16/2003 8:47 AM EST by YaYa123

[GailA]

The Peace & Justice Centers are often involved in these anti-Bush demos. They need to be checked into to.

[hippyhater]

Yesterday, millions of people across the world protested the potential US invasion of Iraq. Today, the world said that the next Hitler, who has already murdered over 1 million people, must be given more time to develop WMD. The man, who was either directly or indirectly responsible for the genocide of over 2,800 US citizen on 09/11, was given the Chance card to advanced to GO by the peace activist of the world.

Imagine that, peacenicks sticking up for a mass murderer who has violated his citizens Human Rights and has murdered them as well. What type of people protest the freeing of the other human beings from bondage by a man that would kill them for protesting in his country ? The same people who did not make a peep when Bill Clinton was setting world records for the number of arm deals in dollars and in pure numbers .

This so called peace movement is all about the politics of the world wide left. Eg. Imagine if John Ashcroft had surrounded an Eco Groups compound with DEA and FBI agents and then opened fire on the compound killing several men, women and children. Hell, if Bill Clinton would have used the same tatics that he did on the Branch Davidians of Waco on the terrorist that bombed the WTC in 1993 then we might not be in this situation rigt now..

[Ragtime Cowgirl]

We need to 'educate' the author of every pro-peacenik article the press pushes on America.

dbaker@sfchronicle.com

[dware]

I am currently working with Bob J to put together a committee right here on FR called "Citizens for Fair and Balanced Funding". The committee will be using an investigative standpoint to research these organizations in-depth, along with their funders, activities as well as those that run them.

I am at the recruiting stage for the committee at this point, and would like to invite each of you. Basically, members will get a crash course on how to use on & off line public record sources & private data vendors to investigate these organizations & individuals. Then, we will all work on getting the information out via FR, the media and a website.

If you are interested, please FReepmail me or email me at warehouse@gvii.net

[cynicom]

We all know where the money comes from and what organization brings all of these groups together.

[dandelion]

"New World Foundation"

WHOIS Record for New World Foundation

www.newwf.org
 Registrant:
New World Foundation (NEWWF-DOM)
666 West End Avenue
New York
NY,10025
US Domain Name: NEWWF.ORG

Administrative Contact:
Greer, Colin (CGC374)cgreer@NEWWF.ORG
The New World Foundation
666 West End Avenue
New York, NY 10025
US
(212) 497-3466 (212) 472-0508

Technical Contact:
Administrator, New (NWA82)vmartinez@NEWWF.ORG
The New World Foundation
666 West End Avenue
New York, NY 10025
US
(212) 497-3466 (212) 472-0508

Record expires on 31-Oct-2003.
Record created on 30-Oct-1995.
Database last updated on 16-Feb-2003 12:29:43 EST. Domain servers in listed order:
SERVER.NEWWF.ORG 64.152.48.98
HANDRELAY.HANDRELAY.COM 216.139.154.207

They are also known as "Take Action" and a list of their activities can be found HERE. Their pet projects also include the Phoenix Fund, and their clearinghouse list is a real window into the organization.

Lastly,Namebase (for what it's worth) links them closely with Hillary Rodham Clinton. WHY?

Let's find out a little more...

[dandelion]

A little more... "Following the money: Is the alternative press wire service compromised by secret foundation support?"An interesting story about Vanguard/New World Foundation buying up the "alternative" press...

[Terridan]

Just a drop in the bucket for sarandon, glover and babs. Cities, especially New York, needs this information to send the damn bill to them for the trash and clean-up left by these animals. I too, wish for a list of who is funding these protests... any luck in getting this info???

[Terridan]

Maybe the Feds are already on this? And, will be surveilancing it, though I think they have been since 9/11. I can't wait to read that assests are being frozen.
What crap, this same group complains about the "poor-downtrodden homeless" and think how much help $85000 would be? I think there is more taken in than will ever be reported. Best wishes to you, and God bless...
;) Terri, a North Bay resident, grateful to be in the mountains...

[Wolverine]

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