"Me no comprende as to why Estrada hasn't been confirmed."
Posted on 02/13/2003 10:42:31 PM PST by kattracks
Edited on 07/12/2004 4:00:55 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]
The disagreement among Hispanics over whether to support Miguel Estrada for a federal appeals court slot is so strident that the National Council of La Raza has called for both sides to cool down.
"While NCLR remains neutral on the nomination itself, we urge those who are engaging in name-calling and accusatory language to instead focus on the substantive issues and merits of this nomination," the group said in a statement. "Since the Latino community is clearly divided on the Estrada nomination, we find the accusation that one side or another is 'anti-Latino' to be particularly divisive and inappropriate."
(Excerpt) Read more at washtimes.com ...
Translation: .......Mr. Estrada isn't "Hispanic enough," and he hasn't involved himself in the right sniveling anti-American Hispanic organizations. Nor has Mr. Estrada paid attention to issues important to Hispanics who owe their allegiance to the democrat party and Mexico.
Ill agree with you for once.
Doesn't seem very clear to me. Seems like most everybody except NARAL, NOW and a group of rabid leftist senators support Mr. Estrada.
Read: "if there are accusation of rasicm to be made, we'll decide the when & where."
He's a nominee for judge, not a political candidate. His views on the "issues" don't matter to the GOP, it's his views on the law that count. He is highly respected in the legal community and had received the highest rating from the ABA (for whatever that is worth) and the Latino Bar Association.
Dims care about a judges views on the issues because the Dims know they can rarely sell their wacked-out ideas through the political process so they rely on judges to act like lawmakers. They hate it when someone is nominated to an important bench who believes in the rule of law and the separation between the Judicial and the Legislative branches of government. That's what gives them fits.
But most sheeple don't understand those high ideals, so it's easier to accuse the Dims of being racist.
Shalom.
Translation: We're getting hammered by this, so our only recourse left is to try and postpone the matter. You can bet your bottom dollar that La Raza would be singing a different tune if the Dems were winning this one among the larger Hispanic community.
It's funny how the Dims define "evenly divided." This morning on NPR I heard a report about Iraq and the UN Security Council. The reporter said something like, "Members like France, Germany, and Russia support continuing inspections while members like the US, Italy, and Spain support military action." So it's 3 against 3, right?
Except, as far as I know only France, Germany, and Russia think inspections should continue and all other nations on the Security Council disagree. I'm sure a roll call would put the vote overwhelmingly in favor of military action, but the Dims quoted 3 and 3 so the issue is evenly divided.
There are probably 3 latinos against Estrada for every 30 in favor, but to the Dims it's "evenly divided."
Shalom.
"Me no comprende as to why Estrada hasn't been confirmed."
The article is incorrect.
Because when push comes to shove,they are no different in their core beliefs than the Dims are. They are just more out front about not wanting to personally pay taxes.
Don't let this nomination fool you. It's only for PR and political reasons that both sides are fighting it. It's a dog and pony show they are using to get the party faithful on both sides fired up so they send contributions. We be having a 'lectun next year!
Yup! Their only regrets is that "he" ain"t a "she" who is from Honduras,and it pregnant with the child of a cross-eyed,left-handed,cross-dressing,pre-op Muslim/Catholic transexual who is half-black and half-Eskimo,and who is now in a wheelchair after being run over by a cigarette smoker in a SUV. Hell,if he/she/whatever were THAT "qualified",Ali Bubba would snag them for his VP running mate in 2004!
ROFLMAO!
Shalom.
Sadly it seems all about getting votes ---and it's probably not the fault of Mr. Estrada at all. Right away the Republicans begin to claim how this nomination will sew up the Hispanic vote for the elections, Rush has a show where the callers claim to be Hispanics leaving the democrat party because the Republicans finally nominate a Hispanic judge. Of course the Democrats will react negatively ---it looks like a big show and yet the nominee is probably fine and should be chosen.
I also did a few searches a few days ago, to see what the fuss was about. I kept hoping someone else would do a little searching so I wouldn't have to step on a land mine here. However, that doesn't seem to be happening, so I will speak now or forever hold my peace.
I agree with sneakypete that this may be a horse-and-pony show, or an Ol' Brer Rabbit trick. From what I've read about this guy, the Dems should love him. He is a member of the Federalist society which is inimical to States' and Individual Rights. While it's commendable that he has proclaimed that "I will obey the law", John Ashcroft also proclaimed that before he gave us the LAW of the Patriot Act I, soon to be followed with the LAW of the Patriot Act II. Furthermore, while the LAWS include searches in violation of the Fourth Amendament; asset forfeiture laws which disregard the presumption of innocence until proven guilty; Campaign Finance Laws that abrogate the First Amendment, military tribunals; incarcerations, and executions that would abrogate the Fifth Amendment; laws that would forbid law-abiding citizens the right to bear arms as a defense against a tyrannical government; etc. etc., I would much rather have a candidate who would swear "to support the letter and intent of the Constitution of the United States for a free and independent people, or try me for treason."
The following are some links I've made, and I apologize that they may not be in logical order. They really are only a sample of what you can find at the following site.
This man is on the Board of Directors of a group http://www.communityinterest.org/cciboard.htm who stands for everything the Dems (and our most recent crop of Republicans) love: FACE-RECOGNITION AND OTHER BIOMETRIC TECHNOLOGY http://www.communityinterest.org/friday_fax/ff092801.htm; and http://www.communityinterest.org/friday_fax/ff011102.htm; and http://www.communityinterest.org/resolution.htm;
ASSET FORFEITURE http://www.communityinterest.org/ff032301.htm;
JUVENILE [FOR STARTERS] CURFEWS http://www.communityinterest.org/backgrounders/curfews.htm;
INDEX http://www.communityinterest.org/backgrounders/indexbackg.htm;
FIRST AMENDMENT OKAY HERE http://www.communityinterest.org/friday_fax/ff102700.htm;
FIRST AMENDMENT NOT OKAY HERE [Pretty soon the only place you'll be ably to speak freely or dissent will be in hushed tones in your bathroom with the shower running.] http://www.communityinterest.org/friday_fax/ff110802.htm;
AGGRESSIVE PANHANDLING MODEL LAWS http://www.communityinterest.org/backgrounders/gangloitering.htm (My notes here tell me to relate the DC Police Depts.' Handling of protesters at the IMF protest. As Jonathan Turley reported in the Washington Post on Oct. 6, 2002, "Students who were either reporters or bystanders had been swept up in mass arests. The accounts had one common element: All the students were arrrested while trying to comply with the law. The DC and National Park Service police had used the same technique in each instance: Surround the crowd. Tell its member to disperse or face arrest. And then, as people try to disperse, block their escape with rows of officers in riot gear and arrest them....One student photographer was clubbed by police while taking pictures. The students then were held in handcuffs on buses for as long as 10 hours before being taken to holding areas for the night, where they slept with one wrist hand-cuffed to an ankle. Police told them they would be held until Monday if they challenged the arrests but would be released immediately if they pleaded no contest......It is hardly difficult to make the DC street as orderly as Beijings's if police can arrest large numbers of people without cause." Of course, in post 9-11 America, the government can trump up any cause. Enemies of the State are whoever the President (and I don't know if it was in this article or another one at the site, the POLICE have been given authority to promulgate the rules "to ensure" that no one's civil rights are infringed!) deems they are. Furthermore a "gang" can mean as few as ONE PERSON if they belong to a group that is deemed a threat by the government (FReepers, no more protesting outside the VEEP's residence, chanting!).
The Board of Directors and Staff directories look like a who's who register for the CIA and Big Business. Please note the founder of CCI, Roger Conner http://www.communityinterest.org/conner.htm.
He's moved on to Search For Common Ground www.sfgc.org.
See Funders of Search For Common Ground http://www.sfcg.org/aboutus.cfm?locus=Funders, one of whom is the Pew Trust, which is one of the biggest clandestine land-grabbers in the world. From the site "We receive support from a mix of foundations, governments, businesses, multilateral foundations, and individuals...By having a large and varied funding base, we believe..we are better able to maintain our independence." Like Michael Jackson, they probably believe the tripe they are spewing. The truth is, these (tax-exempt) foundations were formed for the express purpose of transferring the wealth of the hard-working citizens of this country to the international super-elite, and to reduce our country to a state "where it can be comfortably merged with the Soviet Union."
Furthermore, this Search for Common Ground is a One-World Group (See its EU ties), which "bemoans" the tragedies in Bosnia and Rwanda, and then goes on to trumpet the "wonderful" things that are happening in South Africa (the original white landowners being murdered and their lands stolen so that they can be taken over by the "veterans" who murdered them, plunging the continent into mass starvation, genocide at its most devious. "For every Bosnia...[and]while lamenting Rwanda we rejoice in South Africa where an unjust adversial system is being transformed into a model for cooperative change - Federico Mayor (?from my notes), Director General of UNESCO". I wish some lawyer here would research the Mabo decision. I did once, and I'm not a lawyer, but I think what happens to all this land when the new landowners don't perform, is that it reverts to the Crown, or the international bankers - you didn't think the Federal Reserve was exclusively American, did you? - or whomever stands next in line. I searched Oxfam a year or so ago, and it looked like there were huge tracts of African land for sale cheap. I wondered if this was related. Anyone know?)
Then they take the worst-case examples of child-abuse, and catapult it into a vehicle for usurping all parental rights (Hegelian dialect at work). The child becomes a ward and subject of the State, both while in school and out of school: INTERVENING TO PREVENT "PARENTAL ABUSE" http://www.communityinterest.org/alliance/about.htm;
http://www.communityinterest.org/staff.htm Note mention of TOM RIDGE and WEED AND SEED Program. Do search on Weed and Seed, funded by asset forfeiture.
ON POLICE PROTESTS AND GUN SEIZURES http://www.communityinterest.org/friday_fax/ff032699.htm.
ON MIRANDA AND ON-LINE "DIRT BAGS" http://www.communityinterest.org/friday_fax/ff063000.htm
Oops, I forgot to write down the URL, but it was one of the Friday Faxes: NEW HOPE FOR DC CURFEW "Most alarming was the finding by two of the judges that children have a fundamental constitutional right to be on the streets late at night without supervision."
ALLIANCE FOR [THE CHIL'RUN] - promises to protect children across the nation from "individual rights extremism" http://www.communityinterest.org/friday_fax/ff121302.htm. Also TEST CASE FOR CCI SCHOOL SAFETY GUIDE [for State Control of YOUR Kids 24/7]
************** GOT KIDS? MUST READ!!!! *****************
DRAFT DOCUMENT CREATING AND DEFENDING CIVILITY AND SAFETY IN PUBLIC SCHOOLS A LEGAL GUIDE FOR TEACHERS, ADMINISTRATORS, AND THE COMMUNITY (WHAT ABOUT PARENTS????????) Details too numerous to mention all, but includes such topics as compulsory school uniforms (brown shirts?), STRIP SEARCHES FOR DRUGS, "Nothing more than reasonable suspicion required", Power to Control and Censor school-Sponsored Papers...To Eliminate material that is contrary to the school's "mission and values"
Articles of Interest from Berit Kjos, author of Brave New Schools:
An Analysis of Community Oriented Policintg link
Using Children to Spy on Families link
Government Gatekeepers Come After the Internet link
Character Training For Global Citizenship link
Local Agenda 21 The UN Plan For Your Community link
Nazi Model for Outcome Based Education LINK
World Heritage Protection - UNESCO'S WAR AGINST NATIONAL SOVEREIGNTY link
What Happened to Parents' Rights? LINK
Zero Tolerance for Non-Compliance LINK
Would someone be so kind as to post the URL for her WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT: LIFELONG LEARNING MEANS LIFELONG INDOCTRINATION. It's a good article and I forgot to look it up. I'm actually feeling dizzy after typing all these URL's and I think I'm going to be nauseous if I have to type another. I hope these links work. At least I hope I was able to point you in the right direction. On the other hand, if "conservative" has come to mean "fascism is a good thing" here, I guess I need to move on to another site.
By the way, I started with a google search, and saw "Alliance for Justice Condemns Estrada Vote "...DC circuit, the country's 2nd most powerful court, hears some of the most significant cases involving health, safety, civil rights and environmental regulations." A lot of the groups that seem to be yelling, seem to have similar agendas. Go figure. Estrada could be in line to be a US Supreme Court Justice.
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