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| 2-13-03
| Reoublican_Strategist
Posted on 02/13/2003 7:08:38 PM PST by Republican_Strategist
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To: Republican_Strategist
I haven't seen a plan. What about all the money I have paid into the system? Do I get screwed MORE under your plan?
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posted on
02/13/2003 7:38:04 PM PST
by
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To: Abcdefg
Well, I have seen that knee-jerk response quite often, probably the most.
Here are the facts:
Americans do not have a legal right to these taxes. In 1960 in Flemming vs. Nestor, Mr. Nestor sued the Federal government claiming he had a right to collect Social Security benefits since he had paid his Social Security "contributions." The U.S. Supreme Court ruled that he, and all workers, have no such property right. "I paid in, I contributed, and therefore I deserve my benefits," is, therefore, a common mis-belief among Americans. Congress can change, as the current debate reveals, any and all criteria as to benefit amounts, tax rates, retirement age, etc. They can cut or eliminate benefits regardless of workers' so-called "contributions."
Any money you paid in is immediately redistributed in the manner that all pyramid schemes require. So when you reach 65, and retire, the money you draw from Social Security is simply going to be taken forcibly against someones will by the Federal Government. So hey, if you are okay with the government stealing from you, and government stealing from others to pay you off, then fine. I guess you dont mind screwing others, being screwed by the government, or screwing the constitution.
To: Republican_Strategist
Not to mention that sooner or later, the gig is up on this sick-joke-of-a-scheme. There will be a not too distant generation that doesn't get any serious payback from SSN.
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posted on
02/14/2003 9:32:39 AM PST
by
Egg
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